News:
Insurgents have struck inside the Green Zone, which includes the U.S. Embassy, on six of the past seven days, according to American officials. A U.S. soldier and a U.S. government contractor were killed Tuesday night by a rocket attack that also seriously wounded a civilian, military and embassy officials said. One soldier and at least three other civilians received minor injuries, U.S. Embassy spokesman Lou Fintor said.
They will destroy that embassy, it stands for Evil America
While the people of Iraq live in war rubble, no electric or water or sewer, this palace of the occupying force is a thorn in their side.
I would be pissed, too.
Write off that $600,000,000.00.
pfffft
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By pb_trueMarch 29, 2007 - 9:39amThat place is a friggin fortress
The only way it will go down is if we abandon it. By the way, it has helipads, just like the embassy in Saigon did. Good planning for a change.
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By UffdaguyMarch 29, 2007 - 9:46amBut hey, two 'bloggers' say it's OK...!!!
I swear I couldn't make this stuff up fast enough.
http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070329/REPOSI...
"They have bloggers in Baghdad, just like we've got here," Bush told the National Cattlemen's Beef Association. And those bloggers say you can go on vacation to Baghdad now, it's all clear, everything's OK.
And the smell of bull---- wasn't from the cattlemen.
It turns out, the White House made clear hours later, that Bush was quoting two brothers, Mohammed and Omar Fadhil. They write an English-language blog from Baghdad called IraqTheModel.com. Oh, and both of them got to meet Bush in the Oval Office in 2004.
HEY, BUSH. If you're getting your ideas from the net now...
http://www.burlingtonnews.net/olyphant.html
...why not ask the Alien Pyramid Builders of Olyphant, Pennsylvania to help us in Iran!!!
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By ShawnGBRMarch 29, 2007 - 11:36amIf Bush is suddenly so enthralled with bloggers in Baghdad
then maybe he should read Riverbend's blog, Baghdad Burning. Or any of a dozen other blogs that tell a far different story than the blogs written by those two Iraqi dentists. It was pointed out that this particular blog has always been very pro-american, and the two guys had actually been to the White House and met with Bush a few years ago.
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By UffdaguyMarch 29, 2007 - 11:43amNo topic on the 15 Brit...
....Marines? Sometimes I wonder who comes up with the topics for AR.....oh well...
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By SgtDMarch 29, 2007 - 10:27amHey Sarge...
here's a thought...why not create your own blog/chat page/ or whatever to put whatever topics YOU want discussed. Want to know what I do when I don't see a topic I would like to comment or t.v. show I would like to watch...I leave that site or change the channel. Shall I send a waaaaaambulance for your hurt feelings?
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By caztazMarch 29, 2007 - 10:41amYou must....
...be the board administrator.....you suck.
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By SgtDMarch 29, 2007 - 10:42amSubmitted by caztaz on March 29, 2007 - 10:41am
:lol:
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By SJerseyIndyMarch 29, 2007 - 10:48amSorry...
not hip enough or just can't make out what message those characters are supposed to convey. Please enlighten me...and I'm not trying to be sarcastic or condescending.
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By caztazMarch 29, 2007 - 4:08pmby caztaz on March 29, 2007 - 3:08pm
Laugh Out Loud.
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By Guy FawkesMarch 29, 2007 - 4:09pmSubmitted by Guy Fawkes on March 29, 2007 - 4:09pm
What wood u no comtard?
Your just sum guy wif a funknee name who hates America...
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By SJerseyIndyMarch 29, 2007 - 4:17pmby SJerseyIndy on March 29, 2007 - 3:17pm
Dammit hatey, you're supposed to be cleaning toilets for at LEAST another hour.
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By Guy FawkesMarch 29, 2007 - 4:20pmSubmitted by Guy Fawkes on March 29, 2007 - 4:20pm
Just like a tipikull comtard... Just cuz I'm black meens I cleen toylets?
Now yur not invited too dinner with me and Maya.
:)=
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By SJerseyIndyMarch 29, 2007 - 4:23pmI kinda missed old CIMM yesterday
His rantings about the joys of mass murder can be truly amusing at times...as long as you aren't one of the multitudes he feels compelled to slaughter.
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By UffdaguyMarch 29, 2007 - 4:27pmSubmitted by caztaz on March 29, 2007 - 3:08pm
Are you talking about my post? ROTFLMAO = rolling on the floor laughing my ass off.
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By frazzledMarch 29, 2007 - 4:16pmSubmitted by frazzled on March 29, 2007 - 4:16pm
Oh lookee hear. Anuthr comtard who thinks he nos it all...
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By SJerseyIndyMarch 29, 2007 - 4:18pmSubmitted by SJerseyIndy on March 29, 2007 - 3:18pm
In the name of the Father, the Son, and the Flying Spaghetti Monster I compel you ... BEGONE hatesomemore!
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By frazzledMarch 29, 2007 - 4:22pmHello frazzled...
no, I was directing that comment at SJI. Thank you.
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By caztazMarch 29, 2007 - 5:32pmSubmitted by caztaz on March 29, 2007 - 4:08pm
Sorry...
I come to the front pages from the AFB, where we used to have neat little emoticons to use. That one stands for "laugh out loud" and would normally show as a laughing smiley face.
:insertiwouldkillforemoticonsemoticonhere:
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By SJerseyIndyMarch 29, 2007 - 4:20pmSubmitted by SJerseyIndy on March 29, 2007 - 3:20pm.
I come to the front pages from the AFB, where we used to have neat little emoticons to use.
I wonder if we could get a hold of the "sheriff" to see if he could add some, and maybe clean up a little at the same time?
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By XanaduMarch 29, 2007 - 4:24pmSubmitted by Xanadu on March 29, 2007 - 4:24pm
I'd be all for that!
I haven't visited the "other place" in some time, so I would have to imagine that my ability to influence such a thing would be next to nonexistent.
Is he (or anyone who would have access) still active over there?
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By SJerseyIndyMarch 29, 2007 - 4:27pmSubmitted by SJerseyIndy on March 29, 2007 - 3:27pm.
I haven't been there lately, either.
I did see his Advomatic email address on the Drupal site, since he used that to build these pages.
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By XanaduMarch 29, 2007 - 4:31pmSubmitted by Xanadu on March 29, 2007 - 4:31pm
I did see his Advomatic email address on the Drupal site, since he used that to build these pages.
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If you(we)'re serious about giving it a try, that seems like it'd be a good place to start.
Frazzy? Whachya think? Any suggestions?
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By SJerseyIndyMarch 29, 2007 - 4:37pmSubmitted by SJerseyIndy on March 29, 2007 - 3:37pm.
His email listed there is just his last name @advomatic.com.
Even if he were hands-off now, maybe he knows somebody else that we could bug about it.
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By XanaduMarch 29, 2007 - 4:42pmSubmitted by Xanadu on March 29, 2007 - 4:42pm
I tend to wonder if he'd even recognize who I am. My interactions with him were always minimal at most. But, I suppose it can't hurt to try.
Maybe we should come up with a general idea of some adjustments should he (or whoever) be willing. I'm not the best with techie stuff. I'm not sure what it would entail, but some things that come to mind would be:
--emoticons
--a "disable/enable" rich text option
--clickable hyperlink, bold, italics, etc. buttons
and so on...
LOL
Can ya tell I'm lost without the old format?!
:wherearemyfuckingemoticonsdammit?!:
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By SJerseyIndyMarch 29, 2007 - 4:48pmSubmitted by SJerseyIndy on March 29, 2007 - 3:48pm.
Can ya tell I'm lost without the old format?!
I thought it was more fun before he disabled the class parameters.
Remember when we were able to change the colors, size, and fonts of the text at first?
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By XanaduMarch 29, 2007 - 4:53pmSubmitted by Xanadu on March 29, 2007 - 4:53pm
Remember when we were able to change the colors, size, and fonts of the text at first?
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Ahhh, the good ole days! While that was a bit before my time as a registered user, I do recall it from my days of lurking.
I was also a big fan of the ability to offset/indent quotes and the like.
I can still remember the night I put KEV through the torture of teaching me how to do it... LOL.
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By SJerseyIndyMarch 29, 2007 - 5:00pmSubmitted by SJerseyIndy on March 29, 2007 - 4:00pm.
Ahhh, the good ole days!
I was active during the first incarnation of the blog, and then took a break and wasn't really active again until about the time that they started testing the last version.
It's like you had to relearn everything every time that they changed.
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By XanaduMarch 29, 2007 - 5:10pmSubmitted by SJerseyIndy on March 29, 2007 - 3:37pm.
His username over at the Thom Hartmann blog didn't have the contact info behind it. I haven't seen him on in ages.
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By frazzledMarch 29, 2007 - 4:51pmfrazzled
http://www.thomhartmann.com/
There is a chat room link on his site.
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By pb_trueMarch 29, 2007 - 4:55pmSubmitted by pb_true on March 29, 2007 - 3:55pm
Yikes! My browser no likee the Java software!
This site would explain the lack of content on his AAR page, though. I was wondering why it hadn't been updated.
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By frazzledMarch 29, 2007 - 5:04pmI asked SueN..and she posted links for his own site.
so I found no help, but if you guys got the connects.....work it. :-)
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By pb_trueMarch 29, 2007 - 5:05pmSubmitted by frazzled on March 29, 2007 - 3:51pm.
Yeah. When I noticed his name there, that was the first thing that I checked.
I had both his and Eric's contact pages bookmarked, but I think they were disabled a long time ago.
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By XanaduMarch 29, 2007 - 5:01pmSubmitted by Xanadu on March 29, 2007 - 3:24pm
Anyone know who posts the stories here? I sorta figured it was him.
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By frazzledMarch 29, 2007 - 4:27pmSubmitted by frazzled on March 29, 2007 - 3:27pm.
Anyone know who posts the stories? I sorta figured it was him.
I've tried to watch for it when the news is usually posted, but I haven't seen his name on the user list.
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By XanaduMarch 29, 2007 - 4:32pmXanadu, topics are usually posted during Sam Seder's
first hour. After 9am
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By pb_trueMarch 29, 2007 - 4:34pmHello SJI...
thanks for the clarification and the lesson.
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By caztazMarch 29, 2007 - 5:22pmoh I'm sure FAUX news will keep the war drums going
But hey -- you should be happy. Iran = Job Security for you.
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By HobbitGoddessMarch 29, 2007 - 10:50amHey somebody has to cover
Hey somebody has to cover the story of how the Iranians have committed an ACT OF WAR and taken PRISONERS. The time of talking with Ahmenojihad is passed and if they want a war, they will have it...Guess what, GW is still the Commander in Chief, he can't start a war but it is his job to defend America. Darn that Constitution.
Fred Thompson '08
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By Fight4itMarch 29, 2007 - 4:59pmFitful, you missed that debunking yesterday..try to keep up
Blair used a fake map.
Check your "talkers".
The Ship was in Iranian waters when the Brits were seized.
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By pb_trueMarch 29, 2007 - 5:04pmSubmitted by Fight4it on March 29, 2007 - 3:59pm.
So, now it's an act of war when you take foreign soldiers prisoners when they enter your territory without permission?
It's more an act of war when armed soldiers enter your territory.
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By XanaduMarch 29, 2007 - 5:04pmSubmitted by Fight4it on March 29, 2007 - 3:59pm
Then maybe George should start defending America instead of waging wars against countries that didn't threaten us and squandering our nation's resources.
And Fred Thompson doesn't have the fundies. Can't win as a Republicant without the fundies.
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By frazzledMarch 29, 2007 - 5:07pmKidnapping british sailors was an act of war?
Then I am sure you will have no problem agreeing that the arrest of 5 Iranians in January by US forces was an act of war. Or the kidnapping of palestinian legislators by Israel last summer was an act of war. The Iranians and palestinians have still not been released. Care to enlighten us why those aren't acts of war sparky?
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By UffdaguyMarch 30, 2007 - 8:58amSubmitted by Uffdaguy on March 30, 2007 - 7:58am.
So, if we have US special operations teams in Iran, and they were captured, would their capture be an act of war in his mind?
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By XanaduMarch 30, 2007 - 9:24amOf course not
After all, they are americans, so they can do no wrong. So what if having americans doing spec ops in a foreign country is against international law. We only listen to those laws when they are convenient. By the way, one week to the war.
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By UffdaguyMarch 30, 2007 - 9:42amhey uffy
explain how they are acts of war. you seem to bend over backwards to condemn america, hate america, blame america for everything, while justifying the actions of murderous regimes. why is that?
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By hatenomorMarch 30, 2007 - 11:24amso far uffy
the un seems to back what we are doing, but condemns what the palistineans and iranians are doing. hummmmmmmmm but you condemn what we are doing while justifying what they are doing. Why is that?
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By hatenomorMarch 30, 2007 - 11:26amIf you bothered to see what happens at the UN
you will see it is completely one-sided on the palestinian issue. Every single resolution meant to condemn Israel for anything they do to the palestinians has been vetoed by the US, even when literally every other country in the UN has voted in favor of condemning that particular act. So, am I surprised that the palestinians are always the ones being condemned, and the Israelis never are? Of course not. As long as the US has veto power, and AIPAC controls our politicians, it will always be that way.
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By UffdaguyMarch 30, 2007 - 11:32amand when was the last time israel
sent homicide bombers into palestinian territory? when was the last time israel sanctioned the murder of children? also, your statement literally every other country..... is flat out wrong. you've apperantly being to anti sematic site, neo nazi sites. i'd like to see the votes your talking about? every other country? come on what your really talking about security council votes, not general votes. you don't have a clue of what your saying. by the way, doesn't it violate the UN charter to have as your countries goal the destruction of another country? your a proven anti-semetic nazi.
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By hatenomorMarch 30, 2007 - 11:42amSubmitted by hatenomor on March 30, 2007 - 8:42am
When was teh last time a country oppressed Isreal so bad that it had to turn to suicide bombers? Why use suicide bombers to defend yourself when you can level a city with your airforce?
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By f u bush2March 30, 2007 - 11:44amSubmitted by hatenomor on March 30, 2007 - 8:42am
How many dead children in Lebanaon last year? Did Isreal sanction that? I think so.
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By f u bush2March 30, 2007 - 11:45amYeah, go ahead and make up some new names for me
CIMM. Like I listen to the opinions of a mass murderer wannabe. You haven't a clue about what you blather on about. And what did they try to condemn Israel for? Let's see, the invasion of Lebanon in the 80's, the massacres at palestinian refugee camps in the 80's, Sabra and Shatila, the kidnappings of palestinian legislators last year, the ongoing bulldozing of the homes of families they associate with terrorists. That is just a tiny list for a person with a tiny brain. Go ahead and keep adding more insults to my name CIMM. We all know what you are, and all true americans loathe the things you stand for.
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By UffdaguyMarch 30, 2007 - 11:50amyou all are anti semites
every example you give you seem to leave out the fact that they were all preceeded by an attack by the palistinians. you can't spin your way out of your hatred for the west and your support of murderous regimes. your whole argument seems to leave out actions taken against israel, as if the israels where just out to murder people, for no reason. your sick. i thought this type of anti semiticism was stopped when hitler died.
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By hatenomorMarch 30, 2007 - 11:59amBig difference between Judaism and Zionism
Look it up sometime....dumba$$
The Zionists are almost as big of power grabbers as Shrub.
Olmert has a lower approval rating than Shrub
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By pb_trueMarch 30, 2007 - 12:03pmHey pb
Wanna join my anti-semite, nazi, western-hating tea party?
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By UffdaguyMarch 30, 2007 - 12:08pmSubmitted by Uffdaguy on March 30, 2007 - 11:08am.
It's amazing that the Bush cultists' still believe there's any strength left in their labels. If you don't support Bush's escalation you're a "defeatist," if you criticize the Israeli government you're an "antisemite," If you don't vote Republican you're "un-American," if your politics are left of Reagan's you're "liberal."
And they wonder why most Americans have tuned them out?
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By frazzledMarch 30, 2007 - 12:11pmyour a defeatist
not because you don't support escalation, but because you want to put a time line on the military, contrary to every standard of war. your invested in our defeat, because if we succeed, its good for bush, which is something you guys can't handle. your an anti-semite if you blame israel for the troubles, leaving out the actions of israels neighbors since the original UN mandate, establishing israel as a nation. your un-american when you place the actions of america as always being wrong. and none of you are liberals your lefties, neo-com. lieberman is a liberal, and you guys are no lieberman
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By hatenomorMarch 30, 2007 - 12:20pmThat is the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me
"You guys are no Lieberman". If he is a liberal, then Chuck Hagel must be a freaking communist. As long as americans continue the middle east policy we have followed for the past 50 years, we will never be anything but a hypocrital object of scorn, derision and hatred in that part of the world. No one here or anywhere else supports terrorism by anyone. When we point out that Israeli neocons are as guilty as our own neocons, that is simply telling the truth. If last summer's war in Lebanon was TRULY about getting a couple of soldiers back, then where are those soldiers now? You don't know, and neither do the Israelis, and I doubt if either of you care. The war was planned months in advance, and that was admitted by Ohlmert and members of his cabinet. They were looking for a pretext to invade Lebanon and damage Hezbollah. The soldiers gave them the excuse they needed. Unfortunately, Israel got its ass handed to it, militarily and in the eyes of the international community.
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By UffdaguyMarch 30, 2007 - 12:27pmuffy
you got proof of your outlandish statements? and why do they need a pretext to damage hezbollah?
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By hatenomorMarch 30, 2007 - 12:40pmWhy do they need a pretext to damage Hezbollah?
They don't and that is not what I said. They needed a pretext to invade Lebanon, because as you should know, attacking a sovereign nation without provocation is a violation of international law, a la Germany invading Poland in WWII, or Iraq invading Kuwait to start the Gulf War.
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By UffdaguyMarch 30, 2007 - 12:43pmand why did they want to invade lebanon?
your logic is flawed dude
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By hatenomorMarch 30, 2007 - 12:47pmHere is the proof of my "outlandish" statement
and it comes from a pretty strong source--some guy named Ehud Ohlmert.
Israel planned for Lebanon war months in advance, PM says
· Olmert's leaked testimony contradicts earlier remarks
· Criticism from inquiry may force resignation
Conal Urquhart in Tel Aviv
Friday March 9, 2007
The Guardian
Preparations for Israel's war in Lebanon last summer were drawn up at least four months before two Israeli soldiers were kidnapped by Hizbullah in July, Ehud Olmert, the prime minister, has admitted.
His submission to a commission of inquiry, leaked yesterday, contradicted the impression at the time that Israel was provoked into a battle for which it was ill-prepared. Mr Olmert told the Winograd commission, a panel of judges charged with investigating Israel's perceived defeat in the 34-day war, that he first discussed the possibility of war in January and asked to see military plans in March.
According to the Ha'aretz daily, which obtained details of Mr Olmert's testimony, the prime minister chose a plan featuring air attacks on Lebanon and a limited ground operation that would be implemented following a Hizbullah abduction. Hizbullah had made several attempts to capture Israeli soldiers on the border since Israel withdrew from southern Lebanon in 2000.
Israeli commentators believed that Mr Olmert and Amir Peretz, the defence minister, took the opportunity of the kidnapping to show they could manage a war in spite of their limited military experience. But the outcome of the war seemed to highlight their lack of experience and also deficiencies in Israel's military planning.
The commission's interim report is expected to be delivered by the end of the month. It was appointed by the government but if it were critical of Mr Olmert, it would be unlikely he could continue in office.
Shmuel Sandler, a political analyst, said it seemed that people close to Mr Olmert had leaked his submission, made on February 1, in an attempt to increase his popularity. In an opinion poll published this week, only 3% of Israeli voters said they would back Mr Olmert in an election, while 72% said he should resign.
Zalman Shoval of the Likud party said Mr Olmert's testimony cast his decisions in a worse light that before. "If he had prepared plans, then to any objective commentator this makes the situation worse," he said. "Why were the plans not carried out? It all also places a darker complexion on his decision to expand ground operations which led to the loss of 33 more Israeli lives."
On July 12, Hizbullah fighters abducted Ehud Goldwasser and Eldad Regev, both Israeli reservists, in an incident on the Israel-Lebanon border. Israel responded by launching air strikes on southern Lebanon before attacking other areas. Hizbullah began firing hundreds of rockets at northern Israel.
Mr Olmert said at the time that Israel went to war to force the return of the soldiers, eliminate Hizbullah's rocket supplies and push the militia north of the Litani river in southern Lebanon.
Israeli forces launched several ground operations, which met strong resistance. Troops had difficulty in moving supplies and troops around the battlefield because of Hizbullah's deployment of anti-tank weapons. After a final offensive in which Israel lost 33 soldiers, the government agreed a ceasefire without having achieved its objectives. In the fighting 1,200 Lebanese and 158 Israelis were killed. Of the dead almost 1,000 Lebanese and 41 Israelis were civilians.
Mr Olmert told the committee that he had ordered the final offensive to put pressure on the UN security council to improve the wording of the ceasefire in Israel's favour.
The war raised major concerns in Israel about the quality of preparations. Bomb shelters were badly maintained and many reservists found inadequate supplies at their depots. Many suggested that the army had become accustomed to fighting the ill-equipped Palestinians and was not prepared for Hizbullah's expertise.
Since the war, Mr Olmert has been fighting for his political survival. He has been battered by scandals involving himself and close colleagues and is subject to a series of inquiries into his competence and probity.
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By UffdaguyMarch 30, 2007 - 12:49pmisrael has war plans drawn up for any
situation they may face. again wheres your comdenation of the palistinians.
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By hatenomorMarch 30, 2007 - 12:52pmSubmitted by thinknomor on March 30, 2007 - 11:52am.
Where's your condemnation of Israel for taking Palestinian land?
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By XanaduMarch 30, 2007 - 12:56pmwhat land is this?
be specific. didn't the UN give the jewish people a homeland? do you have a problem with the UN'S actions?
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By hatenomorMarch 30, 2007 - 1:07pmSubmitted by thinknomor on March 30, 2007 - 12:07pm.
Hey dumbfuck, the land was split between the Israelis and the Palestinians. But that didn't stop Israel from taking more?
How much of their land is left?
The whole area was Palestine and was inhabited by Arabs before European Jews began moving into the area during British control.
Wouldn't you harbor some animosity if strangers started moving in and taking over your land? And why can't Israel take the responsibility to be a good neighbor?
And what exactly gave the UN the right to take land from the Palestinians and give it to Israel in the first place?
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By XanaduMarch 30, 2007 - 1:15pmhey xanadu
one the land your referring to belonged to non palestinians, who where living under another countries flag. israel was attacked by arab states long before european jews arrived in mass. the land israel acquired was a result of countries attacking israel and israel kicking there ass. in the process af getting there ass kicked, they also lost some of there land.
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By hatenomorMarch 30, 2007 - 1:21pmSubmitted by thinknomor on March 30, 2007 - 12:21pm.
Just what the fuck right did European Jews have to the land? And what authority did the UN have to take land from the Arabs and give it to the European Jews?
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By XanaduMarch 30, 2007 - 1:23pmevery right after the state of israel was sanctioned by the
UN
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By hatenomorMarch 30, 2007 - 1:26pmSubmitted by thinknomor on March 30, 2007 - 12:26pm.
That's not an answer. Again, what authority did the UN have to take land from Arabs and give it to EUROPEAN JEWS (notice, not Israeli, European)?
"He prayeth well, who loveth well, Both man and bird and beast." - Samuel Taylor Coleridge
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By XanaduMarch 30, 2007 - 1:31pmAnd don't forget the jewish terrorists, I mean
"freedom fighters" who carried out bombings in London and Palestine, killing many soldiers and civilians until they got the British to agree to let them have their land to create Israel. Terrorists like Menachim Begin. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter, isn't that what CIMM said?
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By UffdaguyMarch 30, 2007 - 1:34pmI think the fact that most of the arab countries
where allied with germany during ww11 answers your question. they lost we won we divide the spoils. thats they way of the world since the beginning of history.
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By hatenomorMarch 30, 2007 - 1:39pmSubmitted by thinknomor on March 30, 2007 - 12:39pm.
Now you're really stretching for justification, moron.
It's time you just give it up.
"He prayeth well, who loveth well, Both man and bird and beast." - Samuel Taylor Coleridge
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By XanaduMarch 30, 2007 - 1:43pmThat was one of the biggest stretches I have seen since
I took yoga classes. By that logic, since several south american countries supported Germany, then they should have been occupied after the war, or handed over to jewish nationalists.
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By UffdaguyMarch 30, 2007 - 1:47pmhey uffy
differant countries differant response. are you really that ignorant?
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By hatenomorMarch 30, 2007 - 1:55pmSo far today, you have proven not only to be ignorant
but an out and out pathological liar, both by myself at least twice, and by others on this and other threads. And you wonder why no one listens to your rants and believes a single thing you say?
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By UffdaguyMarch 30, 2007 - 1:58pmSubmitted by Uffdaguy on March 30, 2007 - 12:58pm.
Why isn't he working in the Bush Administration? He appears to have the qualifications.
"He prayeth well, who loveth well, Both man and bird and beast." - Samuel Taylor Coleridge
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By XanaduMarch 30, 2007 - 2:01pmHey for all you know
you could be talking to Chimpy hisself!
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By UffdaguyMarch 30, 2007 - 2:09pmexactly what where my lies?
be specific
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By hatenomorMarch 30, 2007 - 2:15pmWell, you called my post about Israel planning the Lebanon
war long before the actual attack "outlandish", and I posted the interview with Ohlmert that showed it was true. Then you said Olberman was on MSNBC every couple of hours each day. In response, I posted the MSNBC schedule that shows he is on twice a day, for east and west feeds, and even pointed out that Tucker Carlson is actually on more than Olberman. You then lied and said Keith was on every two hours yesterday. I then told you I had actually WATCHED MSNBC last night, and that you were lying again. You are a pathological liar, and everyone here knows that. I hope your family has found ways to cope with that. I know that I would not accept that kind of behavior from anyone in my family, or any of my friends.
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By UffdaguyMarch 30, 2007 - 2:28pmby Uffdaguy on March 30, 2007 - 1:28pm
I have the feeling that his family disowned him a loooong time ago.
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By Guy FawkesMarch 30, 2007 - 2:44pmnot in calif
and the lebanon thing is also bs. israel has war plans for a lot a differant scenero's fool. and i stand by what i observed yesterday. oberman was on at three times in 6 hours.
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By hatenomorMarch 30, 2007 - 3:37pmGo right ahead and lie all you want
I was watching the same channel as you, and I saw Tucker, Hardball, Countdown, and Scarbourough. One of us saw something completely off schedule. I posted the official MSNBC schedule for you. I also pointed out that a conservative actually got more air time than Olberman. Tired of lying yet?
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By UffdaguyMarch 30, 2007 - 3:42pmmatter of fact, i didn't see tucker
maybe on the left coast they don't show him i suggest you check your facts.
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By hatenomorMarch 30, 2007 - 3:59pmMaybe they just
didn't show him in the mythical land of Richmond/Oakland border.
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By Guy FawkesMarch 30, 2007 - 4:02pmI have checked my facts moron, not only by posting
the official MSNBC broadcast schedule, but by actually WATCHING the program you said didn't exist.
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By UffdaguyMarch 30, 2007 - 4:06pmi suggest you look up the un's justification
for establishing the state of israel. if you disagree with there mandate take it up with them, but until the un reverses its mandate, israel has the right to exist,within secure borders, even if you disagree.
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By hatenomorMarch 30, 2007 - 1:54pmWrong again. And by the way, how did Israel get to have
one of the largest nuke arsenals in the world? Oh yeah, they refused to sign the Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty, and their spies stole a great deal of nuclear technology from us.
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By UffdaguyMarch 30, 2007 - 1:31pmHow convenient for you that as soon as I post proof
for my "outlandish" statement, you immediately jump right to the palestinians. They weren't part of the Lebanon war. If you recall, I also said just moments before that I don't support ANY terrorist attacks. That would include the palestinians, ne c'est pas?
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By UffdaguyMarch 30, 2007 - 1:06pmwhat lebanon war? you mean the war against hezballoh?
who where using lebanon as a staging area?
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By hatenomorMarch 30, 2007 - 1:08pm