No One Knows Anything

By Booman Tribune

 

The New York Times provides a mostly positive review of Kathleen Sebelius' record, noting only the bad reception that greeted her response to the State of the Union speech. Take a look.

Meanwhile, Joe Biden plays some golf and plays with everyone's heads.

Tim Kaine is certainly acting like he is still in the running.

What are you hearing?

Comments

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I'd like to be more interested in the veep

selection.........however the most important issue for me is the corporate media failure to point out McCain’s glaring inconsistencies. The veep selection is one of four people….great. McCain has voted with Bush 100% the last 2 years. We are in the middle of an economic, constitutional and rule of law crisis (failure to prosecute the current administration for high crimes and misdemeanors).

The long decline begins again

for the Dem pres candidate. What a fucking catastrophe. A sure thing squandered like this because of some self righteous idiots.

www.electoral-vote.com

Get professional help. NOW.

while (horse==dead) { beat(horse) ; }

Has this code been tested??

"while (horse==dead) { beat(horse) ; }"
Well Non,
From the above code it seems that your are either a C or C++ coder.

However, to prove that your code is free of bugs, you have to show the values of the variables "horse" and "dead". May I suggest using "varDead", "varHorse" and "fnBeat".

True programmers will know that this piece of code wouldn't work if the values of "horse" = 1 and "dead" was equal to say 3.

Also, to be fair, you should provide supporting code for the function "beat".

You see, to prove your point, you must provide more information/code; otherwise you may be the one that require PROFESSIONAL help.
Thanks

Actually

...I sideline as a Java programmer. Java's a sweet language; it handles memory allocation and garbage collection on the fly. Between that and the "write once, run anywhere" theme that Java is based on, it's my programming language of choice for non-data-intensive applications. (For crunching huge amounts of data, there's still nothing that can come close to the performance of Fortran. Too bad only meteorologists and astronomers still use it.)

In Java, that code will compile and run as written. It is, of course, presumed that the variables "dead" and "horse" are declared with compatible types elsewhere in the application, as is the function "beat()"...that, or they're inherited from somewhere further up the Object class hierarchy that the code extends.

Besides, I really don't feel like filling half the blog with the entire application, when the single line I used will convey the meaning more than adequately. It's not like we're writing in COBOL, right?

If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error. ~~~John Kenneth Galbraith

What!!

Non,
You give a Java commercial when you failed to address the problems with your code that could have been addressed by providing a one line addition just above your while structure:

dead = 0; hourse = 0;

That's all that was needed ... so easy that even a rookie COBOL programmer could make that fix.

Therefore, you didn't have to write an entire application.

Of course, we hope that the "beat" function provide expected results because as it is now it could be in a infinate loop.

Yeah, wait it to the blog has expired to hide the your program bug.
Thanks

You forgot

...that you have to make both variables the same type, otherwise you get a compile-time error. So the proper Java initialization statement would be
int dead = 0, horse = 0;

If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error. ~~~John Kenneth Galbraith

Not a Pro Say!!!

"I sideline as a Java programmer. "
Non,
Maybe that is the problem!!!

You know not all compilers intialize variables the same way if at all.

That's why my fix would be more platform independent.
Thansk

Code Review II

Well Non,
On second thought,the above code would work if you have this super compiler that gives you the results you want no matter what code is fed into it.

This new compiler's design principals are based on GW Bush's interpretation of the U.S. Constitution!!!

Only on an AAR blog will you find code reviews!!!

We are heading to the top baby!!!
Thanks

And there is always this

www.realclearpolitics.com

Electoral vote McCain 274 Obama 264.

Just Wait!!!

Huff,
Those numbers will change once the corporate media/press start telling us again what a great speaker and leader Obama has become.

How he inspires the young and the well educated.

How is not a beltway insider and not just another Jessie Jackson liberal that appeals to the democratic base.

The press told us in the spring that Obama would receive support of whites.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/109456/Gender-Gap-Among-White-Voters-Bigger-N...

Those electorial number will change when those whites return from vacation.

Oh .... I forgot ...... Obama is no longer running against Hillary Clinton!!!

Never mind.
Thanks

The young dont vote

Those numbers will just get worse for Obama. McCain will win by about 100 electoral votes.

Not so Fast

Huff,
Well, is it true that McCain is the real nominee of the republican party and Obama is not.

I know that statement will that draw FUB2 and his friend like Dr_Billionaire into the fight!!

Thanks

Once again, Hillary supporters proving they are little better

than spoiled 5 year-olds throwing a tantrum because they didn't get that toy that mommy promised them.

Explain how Obama isn't the real nominee, despite the fact that he won more delegates than Clinton, under rules that ALL dem candidates agreed to before the primaries started.

It is people like you and huff that not only don't deserve to be part of the political process, you don't deserve to be part of the adult world. In the adult world, you don't always get everything you want, but as an adult, you accept that instead of throwing childish tantrums.

Go ahead and support Hillary at the convention, and McCain in the general election. I dare you. And I wish you all the success in the world with your dimwitted venture. Should you successfully defeat Obama, I'm sure you will be happy with McCain packing the Supreme Court with more Scalias, Alitos, Thomases and Kennedys, who will eliminate those few individual rights we have left in favor of corporations. I know you'll be glued to the screen in rapt fascination as McCain makes his long-awaited attack on Iran, signalling the deaths of literally millions from radioactive contamination when the Iranian reactor is bombed. You'll cheer as he enacts more tax breaks to benefit the rich and take more money from the rapidly disappearing middle class. All because you can't accept the fact that your candidate lost fair and square in a primary race under rules SHE AGREED TO.

You think it will set her up for 2012? I guarantee you if there is even a hint that lack of support from her or Bill or their supporters hands the election to McCain, there is no way on god's green earth that she will be president, or even a senator afterwards. People are sick and tired of her antics, and she is one step away from going the way of Lieberman and finally outing herself as the closet repub she is.

I, for one, will be supporting Obama. He wasn't my first choice, but I see that he was the best choice left after some of the others dropped out. I'm not immature enough to elect McCain because I can't handle the fact my candidate didn't win. I'll leave that to PUMAs like you. I'll let you vote to finish this country off by helping McCain. The blood of millions will literally be on your hands after McCain's Iranian debacle. Hope you can sleep with that on your conscience.

You have completely lost it

That Obama kool aid is toxic shit. You people assured the election of McCain the day you gave your support to Obama and started the merciless bashing of Hillary and her supporters. You can blame no one but yourselves.

I don't blame anyone but the mentally challenged PUMA types

like yourself who never advanced past the third grade socially. Go ahead and have your temper tantrum, little boy, and please hold your breath until you turn blue and pass out. It will give us adults a few minutes peace from your immature drivel.

You Obamacons were told over and over that Obama

could not be elected and Hillary could as the early polls proved. Now that this is coming true and Obama is sinking fast, you are lashing out and refusing to take responsibility for your ill informed choice. It is YOUR fault! I did not want Obama for the nomination because he will lose. You Obamacons not only sank the party but sank this country.

Normal adults move on after a disappointing failure

Hillary and her supporters cannot, as they don't have the emotional maturity to do so. Obama proved he could beat Hillary, so if he loses to McCain, it shows that Hillary would also have lost.

Normal adults, when confronted with a choice in the voting booth between someone who shares 95% of their views, and someone who shares 5% of their views, will make the rational choice and vote for the person at 95%. Hillbots, unable to make rational decisions, end up supporting the 5%er who shares almost none of their views, and who goes against almost everything they believe in.

If McCain wins, and I still find that doubtful, I will not blame Obama. I will blame children like you who can't get past the stomping feet and holding breath stage of their emotional development. I will also blame voters who are too lazy to look beyond 30 second commercials and 10 second sound bites on the network news to make their decision on who to vote for. America will kill itself due to laziness, arrogance, greed and apathy. Repubs know that and exploit it. Apparently they can still count on people like you too, whiners that fit into the repub mold.

It shows no such thing

as more people voted for Hillary in the primary. You are completely gone.

You are a broken record

stuck on the same pointless and boring section of a forgettable song. Look at delegate counts and you'll see that Hillary LOST. Nuff said.

Huff is hoping

that if he says it's true enough times, it'll come true.
I'm really worried about the hill-bots screwing up the nomination. People like Huff would nominate her at the convention in a heartbeat, just to screw up the convention.
If Hillary screw this one up, and McCain gets in, I'm going to be really really really disappointed

give me lever, and a place to stand...

If McCain gets in, the whole world will be both disappointed

and afraid. They will know that the 8 year nightmare the world experienced under Bush will continue, with more wars and economic failure in store. Can the world survive it? I doubt it. How can it make it through when McCain is eager to attack Iran, an attack that estimates say will kill over 2 million people in the first few days because of radiation released from attacks on the Iranian reactor and the centrifuges. A fully-fueled and operating nuclear reactor has never been bombed before, and it is such a fearsome prospect that our own nukes are given pretty tight security. And when that attack happens, all Iranian oil is immediately and permanently taken off the market, as the oil facilities will be contaminated by radiation for hundreds, if not thousands of years to come. The radioactive fallout will also drift over Pakistan, India, China and Southeast Asia, sickening and killing millions more, and destroying crops that feed tens of millions.

And what will the world think of the US when we do this? Will they be happy with us? More likely, they will see us as a rabid dog that needs to be destroyed, and they will do so with whatever means they can. Simply shutting off oil imports would do the job, or China calling in its $1.1 trillion in US IOUs.

So, be more than disappointed. Be very, very afraid of a McCain victory. It could literally mean the end of the world as we know it, (with apologies to R.E.M.).

Uffdaguy,

In a lot of ways, this election really seems to be turning into a race between two competing scenarios:

If Obama gets in, we get a modern recast of FDR
If McCain gets in, we get a Live Action Role Playing game of Cyberpunk. (It's 2008. Do YOU know where your mirrorshades are?)

Given the choice, I'd rather do the FDR thing. While I'm pretty sure my family and I could ride out the nightmare that is McCain, I'm not sure how comfy things would get.

And, given McCain winning this election, I have all faith in Hillary "working within the system" and helping McCain get his agenda done.

Fie on the Hillbots!

give me lever, and a place to stand...

Why should any American give

Why should any American give a damn what the rest of the world thinks. Along with the Democrat party, their (even our allies) number one goal is to weaken American to somehow make them look better in their own eyes. We are Americans and our number one goal should be to make sure that we are number one in the world militarily, economically, educationally, in respect to personal freedoms, protection of personal property, and in individual independance. We should strive to further capitalism and discourage all of these "entitlement" programs that the left so loves. We should prop up corporations and provide tax breaks for investment and savings instead of the defeatocrats' policies of wealth redistribution. Social Security should be overhauled to allow for privatization of a portion of our FICA taxes while guaranteeing those funds that have already been paid in with the intention of doing away with social security as it is and creating a totally privatized replacement. The 16th amendment should be repealed and the Fair Tax instituted. This would finally allow foe everyone to pay their fair share, not just the evil rich and the middle class.

FairTax.org

Your laundry list of complaints and observations shows that

you truly don't understand how the world works, and our place in it. As much as you might wish to the contrary, we depend on the rest of the world. Why? Because we don't have the raw materials and natural resources within our own borders to be completely independent of the rest of this planet. Therefore, we, like almost every other nation, must make deals and alliances with others to get the things we need to survive and prosper. Every nation on earth is out for themselves, America included.

You want to be number one militarily, economically, educationally, with respect to personal freedoms, personal property, and individual independence. Here's a news flash for you: we haven't been number one in most of those areas for years, and repubs have made sure to lower our rankings in them. We still have the biggest military, but so much of it is bogged down in Iraq that we can't respond to actual crises, such as we saw in Georgia recently. In terms of the economy, we are the biggest debtor nation in the world, owing over a trillion dollars to China alone, and with most of our manufacturing outsourced by the very corporations you say we should prop up. Educationally, we are far down on the list, not because of dems, but because Americans as a whole have become so lazy, arrogant and greedy that they can't be bothered to do much more than graduate high school these days. Your personal freedoms disappeared with the Patriot Act, the Military Commissions Act, and the FISA bill, all at the behest of a repub administration. Protection of personal property was squashed when a conservative Supreme Court supported Eminent Domain laws that allow corporations to take your property against your will if they can assert that they can make more money from your property than you can.

Wealth distribution is something you should be very concerned about. Historically, when gaps in wealth between the highest and lowest become large, revolutions occur. The US is moving into that area now, with the average worker not seeing any increase in their inflation-adjusted income in 30 years, while the ultrarich have benefitted to a disproportionate expense.

No one is stopping you from investing your own money in stocks or whatever you want. You willfully forget the fact that Social Security was never meant to take the place of a pension, savings, or investments. It is a supplement, and it also serves to help those who are disabled and can't work. Privatizing helps only the rich brokers on Wall Street, who will charge you big fees to manage your money, often badly, while the government manages it without fees. Like it or not, social security is a highly successful and efficient program. Only privatization could screw it up. Just ask other nations that have tried it, like the UK and Germany. The poverty rate among the elderly is absolutely staggering.

I won't even go into the dishonestly-named "fair tax". It is an unfair, regressive tax that steals from the lower and middle classes to give to the rich. At this point, the rich pigs have gotten fat enough. Time to have some of that bacon for ourselves.

By wrenchboy August 20, 2008 - 3:02pm

Huff is hoping that if he says it's true enough times, it'll come true.
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One would think that he would consider the recent history of his insistently repeating "Hillary will win easily! She's inevitable!", and learn from it.
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"We can bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb it into peace."
"Power to the peaceful..."
--Franti

By hufflarry2000 August 20, 2008 - 1:57pm

You Obamacons were told over and over that Obama could not be elected and Hillary could as the early polls proved.
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Hillbots also tried to tell folks over and over that there was no use in Obama (or anyone else) running because Hillary's nomination was inevitable as the early polls proved. Except, those early polls didn't mean shit when all was said and done, did they, moron? Methinks thou doth project too much, and your anger resulting from being entirely wrong and losing is now on full display.
Just cry, and get it over with. We have an election to win...
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"We can bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb it into peace."
"Power to the peaceful..."
--Franti

Well didn't get what I wanted.

"Explain how Obama isn't the real nominee, despite the fact that he won more delegates than Clinton"
Uff,
Good you didn't come back with a stupid response like well of course he is not the real nominee of the republican party (da Trap!!!).

However, as always you responded with a complete post instead of mudd slinging.

I am not going to tell you because you have to do your own homework.

First, stop believing the crap that you hear in the media.

Second, in a few blogs back, someone came back with a similar response that you did.

I ask him to prove his point.

He did with giving overall delegate counts.

However, I asked him to break those numbers out and when he did I saw what I needed to prove my point that at this time Obama is not the real nominee of the democratic party like McCain is of the republican.

Thanks.

By KvnRJohnso407 August 20, 2008 - 1:41pm

However, I asked him to break those numbers out and when he did I saw what I needed to prove my point that at this time Obama is not the real nominee of the democratic party like McCain is of the republican.
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That's odd, because I'm the one who provided you the delegate totals. And what they showed was that Obama, like McCain, has the numbr of delegates needed to become the nominee. I think the only point being proved is that you're no more than a rotten concern troll.
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"We can bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb it into peace."
"Power to the peaceful..."
--Franti

Be Honest!!!

"That's odd, because I'm the one who provided you the delegate totals."
SJ,
Yes you are correct that you provided Obama delegate count and then broke them down as I requested.

Since you didn't see what I saw...why don't you repost that last delegate break out for Obama and then do the same break out with McSame and see if you still believe the two are equal.

If you can't see the truth by then, I will spell it out for you and your possie ( I am trying to be hip here but I don't think I am doing a good job).

Thanks
PS...stop the name calling...you know that you are better than that!!

By KvnRJohnso407 August 20, 2008 - 2:36pm

Since you didn't see what I saw...why don't you repost that last delegate break out for Obama and then do the same break out with McSame and see if you still believe the two are equal.
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Why don't I go a bit further than you are asking, and post the only delegate totals that matter?

2008 Democratic Delegates

2,118 needed to win

Obama: 2,229

(note that 2,229 is more than 2,118)

2008 Republican Delegates

1,191 needed to win

McCain: 1,563

(note that 1,563 is more than 1,191)

"Do you see what I seeeeee?"

The reality is quite simple.
But I don't expect you to grasp it in your attempts to sew division, concern troll.
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"We can bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb it into peace."
"Power to the peaceful..."
--Franti

Wow

"Do you see what I seeeeee?"
SJ,
No ......
You know why .......because this WASN'T the last break out you gave on OBAMA delegates.....you are stalling and hoping that the blog expires.

Like bushies....you only provide facts that support your position and you have to drag the truth out them.

Thanks to GUY ...do I have to go back and provide those stats or will you be honest to tell us the today what you told us on Monday?

Thanks

By KvnRJohnso407 August 20, 2008 - 3:18pm

because this WASN'T the last break out you gave on OBAMA delegates
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However, it IS the only delegate count that matters.
You'll get it. Eventually.

you are stalling and hoping that the blog expires
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More like providing the only relevant delegate count in hopes that your desire to carry out nonsensical arguments will expire.

Thanks to GUY ...do I have to go back and provide those stats or will you be honest to tell us the today what you told us on Monday?
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I think I'd rather you go back and provide the delegate totals which show that Obama is the legitimate nominee, because you can give a troll a fish and feed him for a day...
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"We can bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb it into peace."
"Power to the peaceful..."
--Franti

Impeach Bush!!!

SJ,
Are you Rove??

Your failure to provide the information that you provided earlier is exactly like the republicans stalling in providing information about the white house.

You are not going to get away with this by stalling.

Now that I brought the subject up...hopefully AAR will have a blog asking is

"At this time, is Obama the true nominee of his party like McCain is true nominee of his party"

See you then Carl...oh ...SJerseyIndy
Thanks

By KvnRJohnso407 August 20, 2008 - 3:40pm

Your failure to provide the information that you provided earlier is exactly like the republicans stalling in providing information about the white house.
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Er. Um. Not so much.
But I did get a chuckle out of your failed attempt at a stupid comparison.
Thanks.

P.S. I know you take pride in posting things that make it clear to everyone that you don't really pay attention, but it's spelled "Karl".
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"We can bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb it into peace."
"Power to the peaceful..."
--Franti

Stop It!!

SJ,
Just provide the last breakout numbers you provided about Obama's delegate count or stop responding over this point.

You are being silly.

I promise to provide those number in a related post.

Stop being silly.
Thanks

By KvnRJohnso407 August 20, 2008 - 4:08pm

Just provide the last breakout numbers you provided about Obama's delegate count
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The last delegate numbers I provided about Obama's delegate count were:

2008 Democratic Delegates

2,118 needed to win

Obama: 2,229

(note that 2,229 is more than 2,118)

--By SJerseyIndyAugust 20, 2008 - 3:05pm

I'm glad I could be of help providing you with the only delegate total that matters... again.
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"We can bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb it into peace."
"Power to the peaceful..."
--Franti

You can follow instructions TOO!

SJ,
You just repeated what you posted today instead of the breakout you posted the other day that proved my point.

It seems that you can't be trusted.....I just hope you are not an Obama staff member.

Do worry, I will repost your earlier stats on another related post proving how misleading you are.

Thanks

By KvnRJohnso407 August 20, 2008 - 4:21pm

You should've jumped.
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"We can bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb it into peace."
"Power to the peaceful..."
--Franti

A True Republican

"You should've jumped."
SJ,
I know that you want to get rid of the opposition one way or the other.

You love it I that I Jumped.

But today in the Washington Post there is an article that proves my point and maybe send you over the edge.

It will prove why you are stalling because you don't want other bloggers to know the TRUTH about Obama's nonination status and why he is not in the same position as McCain.

I have the link, but I want to open a blog....Obama is something else.

Thanks

By KvnRJohnso407 August 20, 2008 - 4:42pm


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"We can bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb it into peace."
"Power to the peaceful..."
--Franti

I like that!!!

SJ,
It's really cute!!!

Well, I am in a good mood because it seems that now the main stream media is catching up with me about hillary on the ticket....it about time...two months.

Did you catch MSNBC Verdict show last night.

It was like they were reading and reporting my posts and laughing at yours.

Well, can we expect a big donation from you for the Obama/Clinton ticket?
Thanks

By KvnRJohnso407 August 21, 2008 - 1:09am

Please kindly pluck your head from your ass. There will be no Obama/Clinton ticket.
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"We can bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb it into peace."
"Power to the peaceful..."
--Franti

Delegate Count

Huff,
Go back to that site and compare the number of states that Obama won in the democratic primary with how those states are now leaning in that poll.

Let's say, like is Obama leading in South Carolina.

What about Virginia?

What about Maryland....well that is such a strong democratic state which voted for Obama in the spring and will probably vote for him in the fall unless he falls victim to a John Edwards story.
Thanks

By KvnRJohnso407August 20, 2008 - 12:53pm

By hufflarry2000August 20, 2008 - 12:52pm
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Not fer nuthin', but maybe you two defeatocrats should be spending less time wringing your hands and more time registering voters if you're so worried about an election day loss. The simple fact of the matter is that this thing will be won or lost on the ground game leading up to and in voting booths that day. Not on changing, questionable polling leading up to and in exit polling reported that day...
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"We can bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb it into peace."
"Power to the peaceful..."
--Franti

Really

"you two defeatocrats "
SJ,
I bet that's what those people that were trying to warn GW about the true problems with invading iraq heard shouted back at them by the best VP ever!!!......(well if you want to run the country in the ground).

Again, they were not trying to undermind GW but just help him make the correct decisions and succeed with the plan.

I don't think either Huff or myself said that we would not vote for Obama in the fall.

However, we are just trying to bring a differrent perspective to the table to help Obama make the best decisions.

I hope Obama if he wins, he doesn't hire people on his staff that will only tell him what he wants to hear.

In closing, I am not a Hillary or clinton supporter. I never voted for either.

However, I believe I understand their feelings.

Do you?

Besides the knee jerk reaction that they are sorry loosers....come on ...you are better than that.
Thanks

By KvnRJohnso407 August 20, 2008 - 2:04pm

However, I believe I understand their feelings.
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From concern troll to psychologist. All in a day...
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"We can bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb it into peace."
"Power to the peaceful..."
--Franti

Just Like a republican't Loud Mouth Kevin Phillips

"From concern troll to psychologist. All in a day..."
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SJ,
You guys will do anything to avoid answering a question.
Now let's try again, could you explain why Hillary supporters feel she was treated unfairly and why?

You have no idea do you?

Just think about.

Just a reminder, I am not a hillary supporter and never voted for the clintons.
Thanks

By KvnRJohnso407 August 20, 2008 - 2:52pm

could you explain why Hillary supporters feel she was treated unfairly and why?
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Because they're sore losers suffering irrational delusions. I think that about covers it.
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"We can bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb it into peace."
"Power to the peaceful..."
--Franti

Flashback!!!

"Because they're sore losers suffering irrational delusions. I think that about covers it."
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SJ,
Sounds just like the crap that was coming republicans in Nov and Dec of 2000.

All that was requested was a complete and accurate recount.

Yet the sore-loser response proved that they didn't care if were in a democracy and that US flag on their chest could have been replaced with that of the former soviet union.

Thanks

By hufflarry2000 August 20, 2008 - 9:52am

If I recall correctly, there was a rather unpopular President in 1980 causing voters to seek a change. However, voters had questions about the candidate for change that was offered to them. Some questions even involved and surrounded his experience, or lack thereof, in foreign policy. While voters were desperate for change, they were hesitant. That is, until they were presented with a side-by-side contrast in debate. And then...
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"We can bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb it into peace."
"Power to the peaceful..."
--Franti

Oh, you "recall" 1980

What were you doing then? Oh nevermind...

By hufflarry2000 August 20, 2008 - 1:28pm

What were you doing then?
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What you're doing now: shitting diapers.
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"We can bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb it into peace."
"Power to the peaceful..."
--Franti

At This Time

Boo,
I have not turn on TV and checked the news site at this time but it would be difficult for Biden to tell the media "I am Not the Guy" and then turn around standing next to Obama the next day.

That would be stupid.....the team would be starting off on the wrong foot with the press right away.

Now Bush can do it and get away with it...But not Dems because they will be hounded by the media.

If it's not Hillary, I sure hope Huf and Uff are right and Hillary didn't want the VP slot; otherwise, well the heavy stuff my come later.

Therefore, I still say Hillary is the best selection as a running mate.

We will see soon.
Thanks

Thank You Joe Liebermann

Boo,
You ask, how can Joe announcing that he is speaking at the republican convention good news for the democrats.

It's quite simple, Joe is telling democrats well in advance that he will no longer be with them in the next senate.

He is doing us a favor by letting us know early that the dems better gain senate seats in the fall otherwise we will loose our majority status if we don't.

This makes it even more critical that Obama makes the best choice as a running mate.

A choice that will help insure that he not onlys wins the election but deliver a political democratic mandate!!!

More pressure on Obama...can he handle it!!

Again.... thanks Joe, see only in politics you discover that an opponent can also be your friend.
Thanks

I can safely say that the

I can safely say that the Obama organization has not contacted me or solicited my advice as to the selection of Vice President. The important thing for all of us out here is to make sure that Obama actually becomes president. Unfortunately, I am afraid that unless Obama wins by a huge margin in every singe state, McCain will be "elected" president just as George W was "elected" in 2000 and 2004.

Not so Fast

"The important thing for all of us out here is to make sure that Obama actually becomes president."
Rock,
You did read my post above about little Joe?
Thanks

Joe Thanks again.

Boo,
I can't believe I am saying the Joe Lieberman is the gift that keep on giving.

Because he annouced early, now the Obama team and Dems must determine if Joe will draw more Jews to the McSame camp than Obama drew from rightwing proRepublican't white church voters in that failed brokeback embarrasing debate.
Thanks

By KvnRJohnso407 August 20, 2008 - 2:19pm

The "Obama has a Jewish problem!" inference? Boy, you sure are good at touching on all the negative Obama meme's, concern troll. Lemme debunk this one for you too:

National Survey of American Jews
June 29 - July 3, 2008
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Q.11 Now, we would like to rate your feelings toward some people and organizations, with one hundred meaning a VERY WARM, FAVORABLE feeling; zero meaning a VERY COLD, UNFAVORABLE feeling; and fifty meaning not particularly warm or cold. You can use any number from zero to one hundred, the higher the number the more favorable your feelings are toward that person or organization.

...............................Mean Fav Unfav ID
11 George W. Bush 24.8 22 74 100

12 Barack Obama 57.8 60 34 97

13 John McCain 39.5 34 57 95

14 Joe Lieberman 41.7 37 48 92

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http://www.jstreet.org/files/images/Survey_July_2008_final.doc

What's next?
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"We can bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb it into peace."
"Power to the peaceful..."
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Not Bad!!

SJ,
Now you are giving me something to work with.

First, that poll seems to be old therefore do you think there has been any major shift since then.

Second, you have to admit that polls like these are nice in determing the softness/strength of the candidate support...... but clear choice polls are much better. You know, like who you support, Obama or McSame.

Third, are these democratic leaning jews because the support for Obama seem to be much higher than that of Lieberman?
With that said, in your opinion, how much democratic jews support will Lieberman draw to McSame with his RNC visit and support?

Thanks...good stuff looking forward to hearing from you.

By KvnRJohnso407 August 20, 2008 - 3:08pm

Now you are giving me something to work with.
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Now, if only you had a brain to work with.

First, that poll seems to be old therefore do you think there has been any major shift since then.
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It's less than two months old. Do you have a more recent poll indicating a shift? Then, no.

Second, you have to admit that polls like these are nice in determing the softness/strength of the candidate support...... but clear choice polls are much better.
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I think if you were to bother to do any research on historical polling, you'd find that support for a candidate is largely, in most cases, tied to said candidate's favorability rating. This is but one of the fatal flaws many pointed to regarding a Hillary candidacy. She has some of the highest negatives and lowest favorability ratings of any current politician.

You know, like who you support, Obama or McSame.
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You know, like, I can't help but think you didn't even bother to click the link.
If you had, you would've found that info.

But it's not as if relevant information is of any interest to someone devoted to division and distraction.
You know, like, someone who is a concern troll...
____________________
"We can bomb the world to pieces, but we can't bomb it into peace."
"Power to the peaceful..."
--Franti

Well

"First, that poll seems to be old therefore do you think there has been any major shift since then.
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It's less than two months old. Do you have a more recent poll indicating a shift? Then, no."
SJ,
Seems like a fair question because current nation polls show a major downward shift for Obama over that same time period. Why won't this change or will you make the same mistake that was made in 1948.
Thanks

Say what!!!

"I think if you were to bother to do any research on historical polling, you'd find that support for a candidate is largely, in most cases, tied to said candidate's favorability rating. This is but one of the fatal flaws many pointed to regarding a Hillary candidacy. She has some of the highest negatives and lowest favorability ratings of any current politician."
SJ,
So you would prefer a somewhat likable poll number over a up and down poll.

Most of the favarobility polls reflect knowledge of the candidate.

As a rule, an established candidate will have lower number than an unestablished candidate.

Tell that to Bill Clinton, when he had low favorability numbers but left office with the highest job approval rating.

So you are telling me that if Bill ran again in 2000, he would have lost to GW because he had high favoribility numbers because the people didn't know what they were getting.

And I am the one missing a brain????
Thanks

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