Hittiing McCain on Energy and Claims to Moderation
In a panel in The Big Tent in Denver moderated by The Washington Note’s Steve Clemons, pollster Geoff Garin opined that the Obama campaign really hasn’t taken on John McCain the way they should. One example he gave was over the compromise energy plan that Obama made some positive remarks about. Garin said that here we have a bipartisan plan, Five Democrats and Five Republicans came up with moderate, maverick plan. Obama has said that he appreciates the plan because it illustrates the kind bipartisan, outside the box thinking that he would want to occur when he is President. How can McCain take up the Maverick, Bipartisan label if he opposes this agreement? Obama should hit him over the head with it by saying that John cCain is so tied to the oil industry he can’t even support bipartisanship on teh energyissue.
Another item Geoff Garin came up with is the national security issue. As he said, “John McCain’s answer to international problems is always to send in troops.” Garin pointed out that when the Clinton Administration started bombing Serbia from the air, McCain denounced this tactic destined for failure and said that the only way to solve the issue was to send in massive ground forces. Well since he was drastically wrong, as the air campaign led to Serbia’s surrender and withdrawal from Kosovo, this example paints a frightening picture of what a McCain foreign policy would be like. It also questions McCain’ judgement.
Garin’s examples show that if used intelligently, McCain’s own record can be used to counter the maverick, wise, bipartisan identity that he is trying to carve out for himself.
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Hey, not fair!
Jukebox Johnny McFlameout knows where there's more oil! "Offshore!"
Hmm. Iraq is offshore, isn't it?
Go, Johnny, go!
If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error. ~~~John Kenneth Galbraith
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By nonexistent manAugust 27, 2008 - 6:06pmwell said!
BUt I always thought it should read:
Go, Johnny, go...AWAY!
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By wrenchboyAugust 27, 2008 - 6:27pmSame as the old boss...
While I wouldn't want Carville running Obama's campaign, I think he is right. However there is the other side of it. When the democratic politicians do go offensive they tend to hold back even then. If you go on the offensive on a particular issue, you should know the material well and don't hold back.
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By f u bush2August 27, 2008 - 6:28pmFirst rule:
Choose your battles wisely.
I am sort of getting the feeling that I am something of an oddity among democrats. I ALWAYS take the fight to the repugnicans. I am starting to get more than a tad ill and disgusted over the complete lack of initiative, fighting spirit, and the apparent endemic levels of auto-fractiousness, as seen in our democratic leaders.
What does it take to get the democrats energized, organized, and successful?
If McCain wins, would there even be a point in voting?
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By wrenchboyAugust 27, 2008 - 6:42pmBy wrenchboyAugust 27, 2008 - 7:42pm
I think the problem is not Obama's alone. I think the advisors for democratic campaigns are just out of touch. Frankly i wouldn't be surprised if they are in touch and double dealing with republicans to give bad advice. Some anyway.
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By f u bush2August 27, 2008 - 6:45pmRolling Stone ran an article a while back
Seems like a large number of the campaign managers are pretty much piss poor advice to the democrats. The democratic candidate loses, and the campaign manager moves on to the next target.
So help me, if McCain wins, I'm shredding and burning my lab notes. If this country is too blasted dumb to get it right, after 8 years of peace and properity, followed by Snorty McChimp...
Then it doesn't get any help from me.
I'll stick around and help my friends with existing solutions.
McCain wins: I'll blame the P.U.M.A's, and I stop building things.
That, and I rag on the Pathetic Underloved Mangey A*&holes for at least the length of Crash McCain's term.
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By wrenchboyAugust 27, 2008 - 7:02pmLove ya fubu but
THEY"LL LIKE US WHEN WE WIN!! (sorry old line from West Wing)
We need to win first!
We don't have a majority in the Senate. We don't have a decent majority in the House.
I love math!
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By justintymeAugust 27, 2008 - 9:13pmBy justintymeAugust 27, 2008 - 10:13pm
Well I do want the dems to get a stronger majority in the senate and for Obama to win. But I still think the democratic party in congress has been very weak. I don't subscribe to the theory that they were helpless or without voice. There were actions they could have taken and certainly they could have been more vocal.
That said, I am not advocating abandoning the democratic party just yet. I want to see us work with the best the party has to offer to change the rest of the party. I'll give it a few years before I think about giving up on them.
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By f u bush2August 27, 2008 - 9:27pmGod love ya fubu
That may be all we need.
I heard someone (goddess) earlier talking @ the possibility of HRC on the supreme court. And 2 other choices as well.
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fail. Think of it -- always!!!"
Mahatma Gandhi
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By justintymeAugust 27, 2008 - 9:56pmthe neo cons had better get used to losing
Us Democrats have a great candidate.
Us Democrats seem to have a good chance at a veto-proof legislature.
Us democrats have record votter sign ups and turn outs.
Neo-cons, your days are numbered.
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By wrenchboyAugust 27, 2008 - 9:30pmROFLMFAO.......Put down the
ROFLMFAO.......Put down the crack pipe and back away slowly. Then get in touch with liberalbluegum and see if he can recommend a good psychologist.
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By bebeholmesAugust 28, 2008 - 8:41amTranslation
baby cracker spewed "I've got nothing."
If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error. ~~~John Kenneth Galbraith
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By nonexistent manAugust 28, 2008 - 11:25amI've learned to expect
nothing but drivel from bebe the wonder-troll.
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By wrenchboyAugust 28, 2008 - 10:07pm