Rachel Maddow in the New York Times

She appeared on her way to a career as an AIDS-policy advocate when a funny thing happened: on a lark she auditioned to be the news reader and sidekick on a wacky FM morning radio program in the area. She got the job, which had her occasionally donning an inflatable calculator costume at a local Ford dealer. She acknowledged that the work was not exactly what she had in mind when she graduated from Stanford University with a bachelor’s degree in public policy and from Oxford University, which she attended on a Rhodes Scholarship and where she earned her doctorate.
In 2004 she somehow parlayed her varied academic and drive-time radio experiences into a job as a co-host on a new morning program on Air America. That put her onto the booking lists of any number of cable news programs desperate for a fresh liberal voice.
“If you want a left-right fight, in 2004 or today, there’s this roster of dozens, if not hundreds, of conservative talk-show hosts to book,” she said. “On the left there’s Alan Colmes. Oh, wait a minute, he’s taken. I think I got booked, initially, by default.”
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Rachel is without doubt the best host on AAR
and I truly enjoyed her time hosting Countdown. She is intelligent, witty, and easily able to destroy neocons without resorting to shouting and namecalling like her opponents. It must be frustrating for repubs to have to deal with her when their "front line" consists of known fools like Rush, Hannity, North, and Bill-O.
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By UffdaguyJuly 17, 2008 - 3:05pmBy Uffdaguy July 17, 2008 - 3:05pm
...She is intelligent, witty, and easily able to destroy neocons without resorting to shouting and namecalling like her opponents.
I think that is the core of exactly why she is such a great host, be it radio or television. All one really needs are the facts, and she has the rare talent to deliver those concisely and with clarity. I don't know if it's still on, but David Gregory was (is?) hosting a show called "Race for the Whitehouse" (or something like that...) on MSNBC. There was a segment where he had on two 'righties' and two 'lefties'. One of the 'lefties was Rachel, and one of the 'righties was Pat Buchannan. He was clearly frustrated by her, because though he is very good at delivering republican talking points, she'd always shoot them down with facts. Facts that most tend to forget amongst all the other outrages foisted on us by this administration, but she was quick to recall and remind. That's just great stuff!
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By roadgoddessJuly 17, 2008 - 9:00pmIs Maddow a Lesbian?
Who cares! Why does she need to announce it every hour on the hour.
As for Rush, he is on over 600 stations. How many stations does Airhead America have broadcasting their full lineup?
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By AuburnDonJuly 17, 2008 - 3:48pmShe doesn't.
In fact, my neighbor's husband had a crush on her from watching her appearances with KO. He was *very* disappointed when he found out he wasn't her type at all. He had no way of knowing because Rachel doesn't focus on her sex life when she's working - just like any other professional broadcaster.
The interviewer brought it up - not Rachel.
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By ShelaghCJuly 17, 2008 - 3:57pmLimbaugh
He's on 600 stations because he's a corporate schill. How long has Air America been in existence? Less than 5 years - I think that's damn good. So what was your point? that Rush is some symbol of excellence? Pleeze.
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By FdeBearJuly 17, 2008 - 5:54pmAiramerica
is on over three stations with a staggering 53 listeners....
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By moneyosJuly 17, 2008 - 11:10pmBy moneyosJuly 17, 2008 - 11:10pm
LMAO!!
Don't you just wish! You 23%ers are grasping at straws, saying anything out of desperation. TOO funny!
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By roadgoddessJuly 18, 2008 - 10:34amI'll tell you what will be REALLY funny...
November 5, when Obama is announced as the President-elect, plus a half-dozen more Dems in the Senate and maybe 15 - 20 in the House. When we hear these little turds cry for their mommies like the cowardly little bitches that they are...now THAT will be funny!
Hey contards...WHY SO SERIOUS?!?
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By LiberalIconoclastJuly 22, 2008 - 3:14amTranslation
For those who don't speak RepubliCANT, here's a translation of the hate-filled sockpuppet's latest entry:
Better go hide, Don. I hear Joey DiMaio is looking for you. He wants to teach you, personally, what the song Warriors of the World United is all about.
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By nonexistent manJuly 17, 2008 - 6:57pmI am surprised at you, Auburn Con...
Isn't Vaughn, WA a bit more tolerant than that?
And BTW, that fat, drug-addicted, Viagra-smuggling boy fucker whom you so worship is on that many stations, because THE MEDIA IS CONSERVATIVE. This "liberal media" that you rant about is a LIE. Tell me the names of the liberals who own and operate the media. You can't, because you are a LIAR.
Not to mention, the demographic who mostly listen to his insane ravings, buy a lot of Garden Weasels and Gold Bond. Hey, how's that low-tech, easy to use Bose™ WaveRadio® doing anyway?
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By LiberalIconoclastJuly 17, 2008 - 7:52pmIt's all about money
It has nothing to do with "conserative media". Businesses pay huge amounts of money for advertising time during his show because he has millions of listeners. Thats why he is the highest paid personality on the radio. He has millions of listeners because millions of people agree with him. What does that say about air america??? Liar!
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By moneyosJuly 17, 2008 - 11:20pmThe drug addict has millions of listeners
...because nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.
Isn't it odd, though...his TV show bombed out in just three weeks. Whoopi Goldberg's show lasted longer!
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By nonexistent manJuly 17, 2008 - 11:25pmThats proof
that liberals control the mainstream media. They wanted to dictate what Rush talked about and thats not what he is about. He's all about free speech. The libs are trying to silence him with the "fairness doctrine". If only it applied to university professors.....
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By moneyosJuly 17, 2008 - 11:34pmNice fairy tale
Rush's show bombed because it sucked. Nobody was trying to silence him, but nobody was watching.
NOW, Phil Donohue had the highest rated show on msnbc and it got pulled when he started disparaging the Iraq war. THAT was censorship which the fairness doctrine would have PROTECTED him from.
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By gt6July 18, 2008 - 8:02amObviously you've never
Obviously you've never listened to her, or you wouldn't make such an ASININE comment.
As for Rush, why does he go to an island known for its trade in pedophilia with an illegal prescription of Viagra?
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By MichtouJuly 17, 2008 - 8:33pmThe fat drug addict
To have that many listeners shows that Moore was right. The stupidist people in the world are right here in the USA. The drug addict goes after the ignorant and the unwashed.
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By Roland SanchezJuly 17, 2008 - 10:07pmAnd the most hilarious part...
Is that these slimeballs perpetuate themselves (and their advertisers) by constantly putting down education and the people who have it. So their loyal followers are convinced that it is they who are somehow better. I've got news for them. Rush is laughing at his dittoheads as he sits in his limo. O'Reilly has nothing but contempt for his "plain folks." And the republisheep, such as those who troll here at AAR, refuse to see that they're being had.
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By LiberalIconoclastJuly 17, 2008 - 10:32pmI've been listening since Unfiltered
And continue to listen to AAR mostly because of Rachel. She is far and away the best thing to come out of the whole Air America experiment.
The people who took a chance on this relative unknown four years ago should pat themselves on the back for an excellent decision.
Those at the helm of AAR who chose to keep her on board should be congratulated for at least one smart move (setting aside the boneheadedness of the Morning Sedition and Sam Seder moves).
When Rachel Maddow's career takes her away from the radio machine to the toob, I will always remember how it all started - with a cranky, shaky liberal oasis in a sea of right wing wackos.
Go Rachel!
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By ShelaghCJuly 17, 2008 - 3:55pmRachel Maddow is the best
Rachel Maddow is the best AAR host. Tom Hartman is the second. Sure wish AAR would bother to find an actual radio station to broadcast their shows around here. I hate having to be tied to the computer to listen
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By RocketjsquirellJuly 17, 2008 - 4:00pmRachel Maddow IS a Doctor..
Rachel is one of the most intelligent commentators in today's media. Air America has a true gem, and hopefully NBC will wise up soon and offer her a show of her own. Her blunt honesty about what is going on in our government is refreshing, and she can do it with a sense of humor.
Go Rachel!
And by the way, her pride is one of the greatest things about Rachel, keep it up!
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By Bclinton21July 17, 2008 - 4:49pmCool.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KW8DRSvEoQ
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By MadgardnerJuly 17, 2008 - 5:47pmBy default. Makes sense, Cause as you know...
Great Kings don't seek out the power of the throne, they have it thrust upon their shoulders.
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By MadgardnerJuly 17, 2008 - 5:55pmUneasy lies the head that wears a crown...
Particularly when there's a tiny little piece of brain lodged in it.
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By LiberalIconoclastJuly 17, 2008 - 8:05pmWonderful!
I just love it when people with real talent are recognized. Thanks Rachel and congratulations. I've definitely benefited from your hard work. Now find something besides those blazers to wear on camera.
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By FdeBearJuly 17, 2008 - 5:57pmRachel Maddow
Rachel Maddow is one of the few people on radio and TV, when she appears, who makes sense. She is intelligent, attractive, sometimes funny, and knows what she is talking about. MSNBC, do yourselves a favor and give her a permanent spot or show of her own. Thanks to KO for recognizing her talent.
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By GDONOJuly 17, 2008 - 6:22pmyep she's a gem alright!
and so brilliant. Its so good to see her getting recognition, she truly deserves it and more.
It seems she is the only one on AAR weekdays from the original line-up who is left holding the ball. Its too bad AAr couldn't keep a good thing going with Franken, Rhodes and Seder as well as Maddow.....now That was some good radio!
Keep up[ the good work Rachel!
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By impeachw2July 17, 2008 - 6:23pmRE; Pundits, Boone Pickens, Al Gore+ Football
1. Rachel, why is there little coverage of Pickens's statement that we can't drill our way out of this one? Why has not one analyst put McCain on the spot about this truth?
2. Football is on when Obama gives acceptance speech, so, why not do 30sec. or even 1/2 spots of Him saying to the Football Fan Community, "I know you're watching football as i accept the Nomination for President, but don't let any game keep you from casting your vote in November." OR even a direct feed to the speech, or a tape-delay of an edited high-point....
Just seems like a good way to wisely spend some TV time....
[sidebar: i do enjoy your spot on msnbc... it elevates our Air America to the ready for prime time "A" List.]
toni
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By toni tylerJuly 17, 2008 - 6:44pmFreedom is on the march...
Don't believe me? Just check out how much our allies value freedom:
Dubai Detains Foreigners Accused Of Gayeties
So THAT'S where Weasler and Egor have been!
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By LiberalIconoclastJuly 17, 2008 - 8:12pmI'd say Maddow is kinda hot
I'd say Maddow is kinda hot if I wasn't so positive that she's a lesbian.
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By bannedfroggJuly 17, 2008 - 8:39pmMais certainment, Mon-sewer Le Grenouille...
No big surprise there. She's out...you didn't know that? So why can't you think she's cute just because she likes girls? Is Froggy's ego bruised? Hey, I'm straight, and Jerrykramer finds me irresistible.
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By LiberalIconoclastJuly 17, 2008 - 8:45pmLol, actually I didn't know
Lol, actually I didn't know that she was, but that's even funnier! Does she like lipsticks lesbians or bull dykes?
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By bannedfroggJuly 17, 2008 - 9:09pmDunno
She's been with the same woman for years. Find a picture of her, and you'll have her type.
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By LiberalIconoclastJuly 17, 2008 - 9:13pmWell she kinda looks like a
Well she kinda looks like a butch, and as we all know, butches usually go for lipsticks.
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By bannedfroggJuly 17, 2008 - 10:52pmAnd you, of course, are an expert in lesbian behavior
...having performed extensive studies by watching The L Word on Showtime.
Ever hear of this strange thing called a LIFE? You need one.
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By nonexistent manJuly 17, 2008 - 11:33pmBy nonexistent manJuly 17, 2008 - 11:33pm
The riff raff are out I see.
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By f u bush2July 17, 2008 - 11:46pmYep. In force.
Guess all the shows on Spike were re-runs.
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By nonexistent manJuly 18, 2008 - 3:47amI've seen enough women's
I've seen enough women's prison movies, plus I took an abnormal psychology class in school, so yes, I am an expert!
And I have no idea why you feel the need to resort to personal attacks, it really is quite childish.
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By bannedfroggJuly 18, 2008 - 12:44amYou must have taken Abnormal Psych more than 40 years ago
...since the DSM-IV-TR doesn't list "homosexuality" as a disorder, while the DSM-III did. I took that course just three years ago.
Try auditing the course. You might actually learn something this time around. Of course, that means you'll have to give up your Larry Craig Memorial Executive Washroom key, since you'll be exposed to FACTS.
If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error. ~~~John Kenneth Galbraith
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By nonexistent manJuly 18, 2008 - 3:45amAre they married?
Oh yeah, of course not!
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By bannedfroggJuly 18, 2008 - 12:46amProps to Rachel
I've been listening to AAR almost since its inception and I've heard Rachel on all the various incarnations of her show and its predecessors. Rachel is the sharpest person on the network and one of the smartest pundits around.
Good work Rachel and thanks for helping to beat down the talking point spewing right. (I don't know how you can keep your head from exploding while on "Road to the White House". Some of your colleagues are wildly drunk on right-wing kool-aid.)
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By Tom KJuly 17, 2008 - 9:35pmBravo Rachel!
It's great to see Rachel getting the praise she so richly deserves. Honestly, she and David Bender are the only things keeping me as a subscriber to AAR.
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By salustraJuly 17, 2008 - 10:15pmSomething must be done!
Something must be done to help these poor people. The price of a barrel of oil has dropped drastically in the past few days (thanks to Bush for lifting drilling bans) and speculators have lost MILLIONS of dollars. If we bail out housing speculators (people that buy a house in hopes that it will be worth more down the road), we must bail out oil speculators as well! Something needs to be done to recover my...I mean their money! Does anyone know of a petition I can sign to help these poor people?
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By bannedfroggJuly 17, 2008 - 10:49pmAccuracy fixxy
Oh, and here's your petition link. Enjoy.
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By nonexistent manJuly 17, 2008 - 11:21pmRachel did a good job
Filling in for KO when he was out.
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By f u bush2July 17, 2008 - 11:21pmI never looked into what field Rachel did her PhD in?
I'd like to visit Oxford University someday.
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By f u bush2July 17, 2008 - 11:23pmAccording to Wikipedia
...she received her D.Phil. (known to most people as a PhD) in political science. In other words, she's proven herself to have more than a clue.
Something tells me there aren't a great many reich-wing talking heads that can make the same claim...about either the degree or the clue.
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By nonexistent manJuly 17, 2008 - 11:29pmSo what's more important to
So what's more important to have on the radio, being indoctrinated at a university and repeating what you were taught to think, or having an audience? Apparently that degree doesn't do shit to get her a sizable audience, I've never seen her make the top 10 in any market.
We can compare degrees, but we should compare broadcast awards too. I doubt she has a Nobel Peace Prize nomination for excellence in broadcast under her belt!
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By bannedfroggJuly 18, 2008 - 12:15amShe succeeded where Rush Lardbag failed.
She stayed away from personality-modification drugs and she successful crossed over to TV.
As far as your sexuality analysis goes, you need not concern yourself.
Having only bannedfrogg-type tadpoles as "male interaction", no-doubt arrested the feminine aspects you ridicule her of not displaying. Its not our business.
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By dewbie dubaiJuly 18, 2008 - 1:06amAnother difference between Rachel and the drug addict
...is that Rachel actually knows what she's talking about.
If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error. ~~~John Kenneth Galbraith
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By nonexistent manJuly 18, 2008 - 1:58amThank you for demonstrating your cluelessness yet again
If you'd ever bothered going to a REAL educational institution, you'd know that rote learning is something that ends in grade school. By the time you're doing post-grad work, all you're doing is critical thinking, and learning to back your arguments with FACTS...something you RepubliCANTs are obviously incapable of at a genetic level.
Most intelligent people prefer to hear someone speaking on a topic that they have more than passing interest in and knowledge of. That lets you completely out when it comes to politics, obviously.
If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error. ~~~John Kenneth Galbraith
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By nonexistent manJuly 18, 2008 - 1:56amYou are really pathetic.
Limbaugh was never nominated for any Nobel Prize, Contard.
Only the Nobel Nominating Committee can do that... Having Mark Levin declare you "King of the Universe" really doesn't count... idiot.
I also find it laughable that you put so much stock in the rantings of a drug addicted, thrice married, money laundering, doctor shopping, first-semester college drop out... while denegrating a PhD from Oxford.
YOU'RE PATHETIC!
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By A GJuly 18, 2008 - 6:36amNot any old Tom, Dick and
Not any old Tom, Dick and Harry can nominate one for a Nobel Peace Prize. Rush got some of his friends at the Landmark Legal Foundation (where he has lawyers working for him) to nominate him. It doesn't count.
Only people or organizations INVITED BY THE NOBEL FOUNDATION can nominate someone for the Peace Prize.
" The Nobel Committee sends out invitation letters to individuals qualified to nominate – members of national assemblies, governments, and international courts of law; university chancellors, professors of social science, history, philosophy, law and theology; leaders of peace research institutes and institutes of foreign affairs; previous Nobel Peace Prize Laureates; board members of organizations that have received the Nobel Peace Prize; present and past members of the Norwegian Nobel Committee; and former advisers of the Norwegian Nobel Institute."
http://nobelprize.org/nomination/peace/process.html
So why would Rush go through this charade, embarrassing himself and making himself a laughing stock? He was jealous that Al Gore was nominated. Rush made himself look ridiculous, and people who repeat that he was nominated also look ridiculous.
You don't think people were laughing at him? Read this:
http://www.counterbias.com/846.html
There are links to support the author's claims. I suggest you follow them.
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By MichtouJuly 18, 2008 - 11:55amBy nonexistent manJuly 17, 2008 - 11:29pm
I think politically people are getting smarter. Rush is like a shock jock for politics. If you don't want to think then he's Ok. But his listenership is going down. It's still a big audience but it is shrinking. He doesn't really offer anything except hatred.
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By f u bush2July 17, 2008 - 11:56pmYou know speaking of radio
Many of these college university stations would seem to be an alternative to the programmed, mass distributed garbage we get. Unfortunately the few I've listened to do not seem to have much creativity. They play bad music that isn't main stream and they think it is being counter culture. I'd like some good music that isn't mainstream?
What are the best college radio stations out there?
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By f u bush2July 17, 2008 - 11:25pmThey're mostly NOT in CA
At least two of the college stations around where I live and teach, are, no shit, automated adult contemporary. Remember when the college stations were the place for edgy new bands to be discovered? Now they're playing Kenny G without even any students running the place!
KUCI in Irvine is still pretty interesting music-wise, but they're very very full of themselves.
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By LiberalIconoclastJuly 22, 2008 - 3:18amParachutist lands in band at Fort Riley ceremony
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By f u bush2July 17, 2008 - 11:49pmUmmm....OOPS?
Also OUCH?
I've had to move a lot of band equipment in my time, from piccolos to tympani. Even the fiberglass tubas are HEAVY, and they're very solidly built. To destroy two of them took some doing, not to mention some serious velocity at impact.
If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error. ~~~John Kenneth Galbraith
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By nonexistent manJuly 18, 2008 - 1:52amNo wonder he keeps parroting Obama on Afghanistan
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By f u bush2July 17, 2008 - 11:53pmMcCain was too busy going to
McCain was too busy going to Afghanistan. Oblahma won't even go to Fort Hood.
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By bannedfroggJuly 18, 2008 - 12:34amObama will be welcomed in the region.
Obama will be welcomed in the region. His star status precedes him. He will be well received in all quarters. He's the great communicater.
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By dewbie dubaiJuly 18, 2008 - 1:09amNo, I don't think he's
No, I don't think he's visiting the terrorists, but if he was you'd be correct.
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By bannedfroggJuly 18, 2008 - 2:00pmPointless Drivel.
Jeeze, froggy, you have really gone down hill.
You've degenerated into a useless troll.
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By A GJuly 18, 2008 - 2:31pmWhat did McBush see while he was there?
Only the backs of the bodyguards in front of him.
McBush isn't fit to polish his honor guard's boots, let alone be their CiC.
If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error. ~~~John Kenneth Galbraith
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By nonexistent manJuly 18, 2008 - 1:49am....by far....
head and shoulders above the rest of the political commentators, whether left or right, she is funny, respectful and incredibly sharp!
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By ProgThinkerJuly 18, 2008 - 12:11amLimbaugh, Hannity, Beck,
Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, Ingraham, O'Reilly, Savage, M. Reagan, Levin, Liddy, Boortz, and Medved are much better.
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By bannedfroggJuly 18, 2008 - 12:27amReally?
Half of them can't take a crap unless their neocon handlers tell them too in the daily talking points while the other half have the mental capacity of a slug.
O' Reilly is mentally unstable while Savage is nothing but a rabid, rascist dog.
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By thaelmann37July 18, 2008 - 1:40amOnly if they're all TOGETHER
...and they're ALL on their prescription meds. In at least five of those cases, that's highly improbable at best.
How many of your poor examples hold doctorates in political science? I'm betting...ZERO.
Game, set, match.
If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error. ~~~John Kenneth Galbraith
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By nonexistent manJuly 18, 2008 - 1:47amBy bannedfrogg July 18, 2008 - 12:27am
Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, Ingraham, O'Reilly, Savage, M. Reagan, Levin, Liddy, Boortz, and Medved are much better.
Yeah, sure...if you like the taste and smell of bullshit....and if you enjoy being played for an idiot. Personally, I do not.
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By roadgoddessJuly 18, 2008 - 10:38amThink about it
17 years ago. Which president was nearing his last year in office? Republicans are bad for the economy.
I think people are a little too optimistic. A while back they were arguing about whether it was a recession or not. Now it's the worst in 17 years. But they still tell us it's going to be fine. but they are about to bail out banks by printing more money and devaluing the dollar.
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By f u bush2July 18, 2008 - 2:02amGore pitches 10-year shift to clean energy
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25718230/
We now know how AlGore’s portfolio is positioned.
AlGore arrived at this event in a convoy of two limousines and a full-size SUV.
What a hypocrite.
It’s a damn good thing he was too much of a pussy to become president.
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By its_so_overJuly 18, 2008 - 2:02amit's_such_bullshit
"We now know how AlGore’s portfolio is positioned."
Oh really??... And how is that, Contard?
I HAVE AN IDEA!... Why don't you explain whatever it is your talking about, and I'll show everyone how you're full of shit.
"Al Gore arrived at this event in a convoy of two limousines and a full-size SUV."
Psst... Contard... You do remember that he was the Vice-President of the United States and is under constant Secret Service protection, right?
YOU'RE AN IDIOT!
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By A GJuly 18, 2008 - 6:44amAs always, im_sucha_fag...
Your name says it all. Come November, I cannot wait. You will moan and cry and shout "Voter Fraud" and it won't make a damn bit of difference. Your President will be Barack Obama, and georgewalkerbushjunior will be but an unpleasant memory.
You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them.
---Ray Bradbury
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By LiberalIconoclastJuly 22, 2008 - 3:20amHey I heard Gore proposed a plan to phase out diesel by 2018
At least someone is speaking about plans. It can be debated whether that is feasible or not. Too fast or too slow. But we need to set some goals.
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By f u bush2July 18, 2008 - 2:06amSo here is the question
Will Bush stop bribing the Iraqi's to keep the peace right after the election? Or will he keep paying them right up to the end?
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By f u bush2July 18, 2008 - 2:10amEither way, the answer is
Pres McCain gets to stay the surge make things better and be the hero -or - Pres Obama pulls troops, loses war/iraq to iran/terrorists ('rewards his muslim buddies' will be my spin) and is loathed by Americans for eternity.
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By its_so_overJuly 18, 2008 - 2:49amThere's no war to win
In case you missed your own Official Talking Point, it's an occupation. And an occupation can neither be won nor lost, only ended.
And the only people who will ever loathe President Obama are you 20%ers whose profit margins will be decimated by the termination of America's unlawful -- and now, unwanted -- occupation of a sovereign nation. The rest of us will cheer that President Obama stepped up and corrected a mistake that Cowboy-hat Oathbreaker never should have made in the first place.
Oh, and just to give your failing candidate equal time, here's a great campaign poster for him...
If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error. ~~~John Kenneth Galbraith
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By nonexistent manJuly 18, 2008 - 3:54amBy its_so_over July 18, 2008 - 2:49am
Haven't you heard? the "surge" is over and troops are being re-deployed to Afghanistan. Never mind that even though it's officially over, there are still nearly 20 thousand more troops than when it started
..Pres Obama pulls troops, loses war/Iraq to iran/terrorists..
Let me guess....you are one of those paranoids who see terrorists around every corner. Well if McSame becomes president, you just might be correct about that, since the shrub and darth vader have done more to create terrorists than they have to dissuade them.
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By roadgoddessJuly 18, 2008 - 10:47amRachel Maddow
Bottom Line: She is beautiful, intelligent, witty, and I believe she deserves a prime time television show of her own. God, I would love to meet her.
Mathew
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By Matchew65July 18, 2008 - 4:55amTalk radio has always been
Talk radio has always been dominated by conservatives due to the conservative bent of most corporations. And today, it also thrives more with conservatives because more older people use radio as their main political town hall. Younger demographics focus more on blogs and other internet sites for their political fix.
That doesn't mean, of course, that Air America can't get it's voice out there as well, with quality radio programming and hosts like Rachel.
I hope that if Rachel Maddow gets a gig on a cable news network, that she also maintains a radio presence like Hannity and Limbaugh do. We need our voices on all media formats. If the echo chamber works for conservatives, it will work for progressives as well. We might as well use their own tactics against them.
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By David in BostonJuly 18, 2008 - 6:55amThe funny thing is McCain bitches about Obama's coverage
Specifically the recent talk is about the coverage of Obama when he goes to Iraq/Afghanistan. But we all got to see lots of coverage of McCain when he strolled around baghdad buying coffee and tying up a couple gun ships