The Lie About Biden VS Palin On Votes

By thePoliticalCarnival


I really didn't watch too much of the speeches last night, but when I did, all I heard was lies. Seems like that's a campaign strategy, not a fluke.

ST. PAUL, Minn. -- Mike Huckabee made the claim that Palin got more votes running for mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, than Joe Biden got running for president of the United States.

For the record, Joe Biden got 79,754 total votes in the Democratic primaries.

As of the 2000 census, the population of Wasilla was 5,469. It has been reported at currently more than 9,000.

That would mean, conservatively, the entire town of Wasilla would have had to have had a 100% turnout for nine years at 9,000 to top Biden's primary numbers.

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Gee. A RePUBICon lie ... how unusual.

For those of you who missed the 'Daily Show' last night ... make sure you drink BEFORE watching these, I don't want anyone to snarf on my account!

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=184086&title=sarah...

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=184085&title=john-...

One more thing - why aren't the RePUBICon's talking about the economy? Not one speech, not one mention of the middle class, the economy, healthcare ...

"I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death."
George Carlin

This ones for you Pookie....

Apologies to Tracy Morgan and Pookie

Bitch may be the new black but, bitch is the new Vice President, black....

Yeah, ... no, not really

The Republicons got themselves a Nazi-esque freak who wants to ban books as a VP candidate but it's not going to help as much as you hope. What's worse is that you are happy about someone who is that close-minded. Galileo's ghost must be running scared.
When people are losing their homes to foreclosure, their concern is not about whether a woman should have the right to choose; although, Palin said it was her daughter's choice so maybe she's a closet Democrat. No, that can't be right. Only Republicons stay in the closet... or the airport bathroom.
When people are losing their jobs to outsourcing, their concern is not about punishing gays.
When people can't afford healthcare, their concern is not about what books are in the library.

I agree with you that the Republican base is gaga over Yukon Cornelia but I don't believe it will be enough to distract from everyday reality and that reality is that Republicons can not govern. Anything. Ever. Bush took a budget surplus and put us a trillion dollars in debt. Palin took a town with no debt and left it with $22,000,000 in debt. Bush used the Presidency to lie to Americans so he could illegally invade Iraq. Palin used her position to try and get her soon-to-be ex-brother-in-law fired from the State Troopers. Really? We're in a so-called "war on terror" and she wants to fire part of our first line of defense because of a divorce? What a traitor!

Republicons frequently talk about how disorganized Democrats can be. It's true, but it's only because Democrats can think and use their brains independently of party affiliation. Republicons are like Stepford voters. Tell them what to believe and what to vote for and they do it even if it's against their own best interest.

If the Republicons win this election it will only be because they were able to distract enough people. Republicons are easily distracted. <*jiggling string*>


"...religion, in and of itself, ...is neither good nor bad... it is like a knife. When you use a knife for cutting bread, it’s good. If you use that knife to stick into somebody’s guts, it’s bad." - Bishop Desmond Tutu

Snottie - LOL

I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death."
George Carlin

Haven't you heard?

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The middle class makes 5 million a year. What do they have to be worred about?

By Pookie2112September 4, 2008 - 10:09am

They are not talking about the economy but they are talking about hurricanes and how they did such a heck of a job this time when no major city was hit by one. Just forget about the screw up of a couple years ago.

And by the way please everyone talk about Palin and this little sporting event we call the election. No one pay attentio nto Cheney over in Georgia trying to start WW3.

Well, they CAN'T talk about the economy either ...

THEY'RE the one's who fucked it up in the first place. And dog KNOWS they can't focus on that. The economy is like the bubonic plague to them for chrissakes.

Didn't see or hear Lurch Romney's speech but rumor had it that he was going to point out that DC needs to change from being liberal to conservative ... I know Lurch doesn't know much about those in the middle class making less than $5M a year but ... does he not remember WHO'S BEEN IN CHARGE FOR THE LAST EIGHT YEARS??!!

"I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death."
George Carlin

Here's your economy. Pukie.

Here's your economy. Pukie. You keep railing about the failed Bush economy.

Bush Has a Good Economic Record
By KEITH MARSDEN
September 3, 2008; Page A23

Successive speakers at the Democratic National Convention poured scorn on President Bush's economic record. The clear aim was to justify the party's call for "change," and to undermine support for Republican presidential nominee John McCain. His election would mean a "third Bush term," delegates groaned.

Corbis
Yet Democrats cited no good evidence for their claims that the administration has produced a stagnant economy, widening disparities of income and wealth, high unemployment, and a heavy burden of government debt (supposedly resulting from an unwise military intervention in Iraq).

How does the performance of the U.S. economy really compare with other advanced economies over the eight years of George Bush's presidency? Data published by the International Monetary Fund (IMF), the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD), the World Bank, the International Comparison Program (ICP) (a cooperative venture coordinated by the World Bank) and the U.S. Census Bureau allow a nonpartisan, factual assessment. Here are some of the findings:

- Economic growth. U.S. output has expanded faster than in most advanced economies since 2000. The IMF reports that real U.S. gross domestic product (GDP) grew at an average annual rate of 2.2% over the period 2001-2008 (including its forecast for the current year). President Bush will leave to his successor an economy 19% larger than the one he inherited from President Clinton. This U.S. expansion compares with 14% by France, 13% by Japan and just 8% by Italy and Germany over the same period.

The latest ICP findings, published by the World Bank in its World Development Indicators 2008, also show that GDP per capita in the U.S. reached $41,813 (in purchasing power parity dollars) in 2005. This was a third higher than the United Kingdom's, 37% above Germany's and 38% more than Japan's.

- Household consumption. The ICP study found that the average per-capita consumption of the U.S. population (citizens and illegal immigrants combined) was second only to Luxembourg's, out of 146 countries covered in 2005. The U.S. average was $32,045. This was well above the levels in the UK ($25,155), Canada ($23,526), France ($23,027) and Germany ($21,742). China stood at $1,751.

- Health services. The U.S. spends easily the highest amount per capita ($6,657 in 2005) on health, more than double that in Britain. But because of private funding (55% of the total) the burden on the U.S. taxpayer (9.1% of GDP) is kept to similar levels as France and Germany. The U.S. Census Bureau reports that 84.7% of the U.S. population was covered by health insurance in 2007, an increase of 3.6 million people over 2006. The uninsured can receive treatment in hospitals at the expense of private insurance holders.

While life expectancy is influenced by lifestyles and not just access to health services, the World Bank nevertheless reports that average life expectancy in the U.S. rose to 78 years in 2006 (the same as Germany's), from 77 in 2000.

- Income and wealth distribution. The latest World Bank estimates show that the richest 20% of U.S. households had a 45.8% share of total income in 2000, similar to the levels in the U.K. (44.0%) and Israel (44.9%). In 65 other countries the richest quintile had a larger share than in the U.S.

Investment has been buoyant under President Bush. According to the ICP, outlays on additions to the fixed assets (machinery and buildings, etc.) of the U.S. economy amounted to $8,018 per capita in 2005 compared to $4,963 in Germany and $4,937 in the U.K. Higher taxes on the upper-income Americans, as proposed by Mr. Obama, are likely to result in lower saving and investment, less entrepreneurial activity and reduced availability of bank credit. Lower-income Americans would be among the losers.

When considering the distribution of income and wealth in the U.S., another factor that should be taken into account is the sharp rise in the number of immigrants. The stock of international migrants (those born in other countries) in the U.S. grew by nearly 10 million from 1995 to 2005, reaching a total of 38.5 million according to the World Bank.

The inflow of migrants may have restrained the growth of average income levels in the bottom quintiles. Nevertheless, their earnings still allowed immigrants to remit $42 billion to their families abroad in 2006, double the level in 1995. So the benefits are widely spread among the families of immigrants remaining abroad -- an important U.S. contribution to the reduction of poverty in these countries.

- Employment. The U.S. employment rate, measured by the percentage of people of working age (16-65 years) in jobs, has remained high by international standards. The latest OECD figures show a rate of 71.7% in 2006. This was more than five percentage points above the average for the euro area.

The U.S. unemployment rate averaged 4.7% from 2001-2007. This compares with a 5.2% average rate during President Clinton's term of office, and is well below the euro zone average of 8.3% since 2000.

- Debt interest payments. The IMF reports that the interest cost of servicing general government debt in the U.S. has averaged 2.0% of GDP annually from 2001-2008, compared with 2.7% in the euro zone. It averaged 3.2% annually when President Clinton was in office.

The cost of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan has been largely absorbed in a relatively small increase in the defense budget (to 4.1% of GDP in 2006 from 3.8% in 1995). A much higher proportion of U.S. income was devoted to the military during World War II and the Korean War.

The evidence shows that much of the Democratic Party's criticism of President Bush's economic record is wide of the mark. True, the economic slowdown now affecting most advanced countries will likely result in rising unemployment over the coming months. But thanks to sensible policies pursued by the Bush administration (not always with adequate support from a Democratic-controlled Congress), the U.S. economy is sufficiently flexible to keep unemployment below the 7.7% peak reached in the last postrecession year of 1992.

The main risk is that, if elected, Barack Obama will pursue a "social justice" strategy. This would encompass higher taxes on entrepreneurs, savers and investors, more direct government intervention in the economy, and protectionist policies (including revoking existing trade agreements) aimed at safeguarding the jobs of his union backers in "old" industries and public services. If so, the pain is likely to be more widespread and prolonged.

Mr. Marsden, a fellow of the Centre for Policy Studies, was formerly an adviser at the World Bank and a senior economist in the International Labor Organization

Hrm...Keith Marsden...

...frequent contributor on ConservativeHome.com, whose "one-sided report can unequivocally be classified as "propaganda" for the Republican Party", according to EU-Digest. In short, the Limbaugh of Britain, but with an education and (apparently) without the addiction to painkillers.

Little wonder you'd choose one of his screeds.

McCain/Palin '08: the also-rans.

Hummmmm

Can't refute the message, so attack the messenger. How enlightened.and progressive.

Drop dead, hatemoron.

"I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death."
George Carlin

Only in your warped world

The originator of the message is shown to be defective; therefore, the message being originated is also defective. QED.

McCain/Palin '08: the also-rans.

How has he been shown to be defective?

Just because you don't agree with him, makes him defective? Or that he writes for middle of the road periodicals? Or writes for middle of the road web-sites? I guess by that standard, everyone that writes for AA, Huffington, Media Matters, etc can be said to have been shown to be defective.

You should really stop making childish arguments.

Like you, he 'opened his mouth'

meaning, the screaming mental defects you two stupid mother fuckers comes screaming forth as you nitwits post your propoganda.

In case you've forgotten, hatemoron - DROP FUCKING DEAD.

"I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death."
George Carlin

I really don't know why admitted racists like you are

tolerated by anyone on this site.

Did I stutter? DROP DEAD.

you've been banned MULTIPLE times, dipshit - GET THE FUCK OUT.

"I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death."
George Carlin

here's what your beloved massa's at the GOP think of folk like

you ...

Westmoreland calls Obama ‘uppity'
By Mike Soraghan
Posted: 09/04/08 03:07 PM [ET]
Georgia Republican Rep. Lynn Westmoreland used the racially-tinged term "uppity" to describe Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama Thursday.
http://www.therawstory.com/

Now, hot damm, Cletus! Westmore dun called that n****r uppity!

"I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death."
George Carlin

And you have used that term yourself, as well as

ones more offensive. I guess if one person, in your mind, can represent the entire republican party, because of one asinine statement, I can say that you represent all progressives when you spout your racists hate speech.

Blah, blah, blah.

LMAO - PROVE I've used that term. You show me EXACTLY where I used that term.

You know, shutting that fucking hole in your face will go a LONG way towards alleviating global warming.

Go fuck yourself, then DROP DEAD.

"I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death."
George Carlin

Well, shithead - PROVE it. Eat shit and die, you waste of flesh!

"I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death."
George Carlin

Wigger! If I wanted to read bullshit from an asshole

I'd just read your bullshit over and over again. I.E.: your 'post' is nothing but RePUBICon propoganda from a mental midget named Marsden.

Got any other propoganda you'd like to entertain us with, bohunk?

"I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death."
George Carlin

Hey, aren't you that racist who calls black people

"porch monkeys"? Yeah, thats who you are. I read about you.

Re: Propaganda comment: These are facts, from that post:
Employment. The U.S. employment rate, measured by the percentage of people of working age (16-65 years) in jobs, has remained high by international standards. The latest OECD figures show a rate of 71.7% in 2006. This was more than five percentage points above the average for the euro area.

The U.S. unemployment rate averaged 4.7% from 2001-2007. This compares with a 5.2% average rate during President Clinton's term of office, and is well below the euro zone average of 8.3% since 2000.

- Debt interest payments. The IMF reports that the interest cost of servicing general government debt in the U.S. has averaged 2.0% of GDP annually from 2001-2008, compared with 2.7% in the euro zone. It averaged 3.2% annually when President Clinton was in office.

Now, if you are an honest person, who is not brainwashed by left wing propaganda, you will comment on the "facts", and stop with the insults. You only make yourself and those who believe like you look like uneducated, brainwashed ideologues.

Stop feigning 'innocence' hatemoron.

You have to be the most pathetic nitwit I've ever encountered.

As I stated before, drop fucking dead. But make sure you shove your propoganda bullshit firmly up your ass before you do.

EDIT: Hey, hatemoron - YOU'RE the only black person who I have EVER called that. And it was because you DESERVED it.

"I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death."
George Carlin

So, you admit to using racist slurs?

There is no excuse for such behavior. I wonder what you call Obama, when you're only around other whites?

So now we know, Air America allows and apparently condones racial slurs on this site. If they didn't they would have banned you for your racist outbursts. I guess we now know what a true progressive is.

LMAO - Simply pathetic. I reserve such language for YOU.

And you alone, hatemoron. You're like the kid in school, who everyone hated, yet you kept crawling back, every single goddamned day, seeking everyone's approval, BEGGING them to like you. Guess what? We STILL beat your ASS and we STILL HATE YOU.

Now, eat shit and die, mother fucker.

"I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death."
George Carlin

So, your only a discriminating racists, is that what you are

trying to say. Racial slurs=Racism=Racist!

LOL - If that's what gets you through the day, shithead!

"I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death."
George Carlin

The only reason you became

The only reason you became black was to defendyour racist attacks on AfricaBamba, as if being black excused your racist comments.
So now you are full of phony outrage. You are as black as my big toe, and always have been.

"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed." Dwight Eisenhower

By momofukuSeptember 4, 2008 - 4:40pm

You've been banned multiple times. There is no discussion. You are to get off of this board now.

Isn't WIGGER a racial slur.

I must ask Sam about that.

Please do. And be sure to get back to us, pussy.

After you ask, DROP FUCKING DEAD.

"I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death."
George Carlin

I'm sure you will be watching O'Reilly tonight.

I wonder how the One will do?

LMAO - Obama chewed that splotchy faced

motherfucker up and SPIT HIM OUT. Obama put O'Lielly in his place, the fucking SEWER.

"I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death."
George Carlin

No, it isn't. "Wigger

No, it isn't.
"Wigger (alternatively spelled wigga, whigger or whigga) is a pejorative slang term for a white person who allophilically emulates mannerisms, slang, and fashions stereotypically associated with urban African Americans and urban Black British and Caribbean culture, especially in relation to hip hop culture and British Grime/Garage scene."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wigger

It's a description of a very small group of people who behave in a very silly manner because they want to be something they are not. Not all pejorative terms are racist. Some just describe very silly people.

"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed." Dwight Eisenhower

So, it''s a race based perjorative?

So, by your definition, it's racists.

LOL - Would you prefer I call you lawn jockey?

"I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death."
George Carlin

Well? What did Sam say, pussy? I'm still here! LOL!!!!

"I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death."
George Carlin

Why don't you ask him yourself?

I'm sure you'll find that he agrees that you are a racist.

LMAO!! What a fucking COWARD you are!!!!

Take your 'outrage' and shove it up your ass, hatemoron. Oops, I mean lawn jockey.

LOL - drop dead!

"I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death."
George Carlin

What outrage?

I'm just pointing out that you and those who don't put you in check are racists.

Bite me, hatemoron.

Then you can DROP DEAD.

"I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death."
George Carlin

By momofukuSeptember 5, 2008 - 9:39am

You've been banned multiple times. Get off this board.

Your a spammer, who has me confused with

someone else.

Eat shit and die, lawn jockey.

"I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death."
George Carlin

WWIII

Yeah, pay no attention to the Cheney behind the curtain over there in Georgia. Another war is right around the corner...and they will be coming for YOUR kids next to fight it.

Call them by their Real Name

just check out www.factcheck.org /elections-2008/gop_convention_spin_part_ii.html - 2 part summary on inaccuracy and out right lies of Palin Speech. Biden and the democrats should call her by her real name, BIG FAT LIAR.

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