The Thom Hartmann Program - July 25th 2008
"AnythingGoes Friday"
HourOne - "Brunch With Bernie" Senator US Senator Bernie Sanders www.sanders.senate.gov
HourTwo – Former Governor Don Siegelman www.donsiegelman.org
Thom'sTravel & Events Coming Up…
August2 & 3 - In Madison, WI with our affiliate station TheMIC 92.1 (WXXM) - Thom is speaking Saturday - NonStop Radio Symposium,Exhibition Hall, Alliant Energy Center, 1919 Alliant Energy Center Way www.nonstopradio.com
August 16 - Seattle, WA - AM 1090 Progressive Talk (KPTK) - Looking Forward/Moving Forward/What Now -Roundtable Forum 6:30pm - 7:30pm Seattle Center Exhibition Hall
- July 25, 2008








Obama in Berlin
Hi Thom,
I am an expatriate living in Germany for about 7 years now, and I went over to Berlin yesterday evening to take in Obama's speech. Although I will vote for Obama and (even though I was quite disappointed with his FISA vote), I thought Obama missed the mark yesterday evening.
I thought the speech could have been so much better rather than just okay.
As I walked to the site with the other tens of thousands in the audience, there was really an optimistic sense of amiable anticipation. Standing on the boulevard between the Brandenburg Gate and the Victory Column, totally packed in like sardines, everyone was filled with this anticipation and you could feel it. Standing there you were not able to see much of anything other than lots of other people and, if you were lucky, one of the massive monitors. As Obama began to speak, everyone listened carefully, many on tippy-toes just wanting to catch a glimpse. They were all searching for something they could hook on to to get on his bandwagen. It was like 200,000 people standing at a bus stop seeing a bus coming, hoping and trying to discern if the bus would pick them up.
But they had to wait. First, came a WWII history lesson with little insight. Obama was like any average tourist coming to Germany for the first time with the mental image of Germany seemingly forged by old WWII war movies. This was a mistake. He spent way too much time looking way back instead of forward. The Germans don't really want to hear this. He was quite out of touch with the issues that would really have swept them off their feet. It would have been so easy. He should have tried to give more of an Al Gore content speech rather than trying to give a JFK speech. If he had launched more into the direction of praising the Germans for their progressive accomplishments in recent years – Environmental Sensitivity, Good Healthcare, Social Equality, Energy policies favoring alternative energies, etc. - emphasizing that they are exemplar of fighting the good fight in so many ways, that they are once again a shining, hopeful light for America in many areas where America also needs to go, and that America needs these kinds of good partners to help lead the way to address the pressing problems becoming more and more acute.
The audience was starved for this, looking for anything for which they could cheer and applaud. Obama, take us on a journey! He didn't really do this. He could have. That disappointed me. He only seemed to mention these issues so close to Germans' hearts in passing, whereas they should have been his focus. He coulda pulled it off. Too bad no one told him.
Love the show! Grüß an Higgings. I stream your cast; I stream it up.
Ein Ami in Deutschland
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By Ami_in_DEJuly 25, 2008 - 11:37amSenator Boxer for VP
Based on the law that opposites attract a wider range of voters, Senator Barbara Boxer would be the perfect running mate for Obama.
She is a proud progressive. (She is one of the senators in http://www.progressivepunch.org/‘s control group of progressives, the group they use to assess the progressiveness of all other members of the Congress.)
She has experience. (She was a member of the U.S. House for 10 years and the U.S. Senate for 15 years and counting.)
She is from California, a state which has a high percentage of Hispanic voters. And she won her last reelection, in 2004, with over 6.9 million votes.
For the “identity” voters, she is a woman and Jewish.
And let’s not forget how great “Obama – Boxer” would look on a bumper sticker, sound as a chant, and, for those informal occasions, “Barak and Barbara” flows perfectly.
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By JHUCJuly 25, 2008 - 12:01pmMore on Obama in Berlin
Not that I wanted to be too negative. It was a good speech, but could have been a great speech. I was also impressed with the number of Americans there - there were thousands. I drove 6 hours to get there (whoops, bad carbon balance) and 8 to get back and am glad I went. Most of the Germans I talked to thought it was a good speech - of course they were hoping for a good speech. They do not like Bush.
Obama was also a bit jumbled in places saying we needed free trade and fair trade in the same sentence - what was that? He also sounded really hawkish in many places. One of the funniest parts was when he thanked Merkel and no one clapped and kind of murmured. There were street vendors selling buttons and T-shirts. They pretty much sold out of t-shirts and could have sold twice as many.
There were a lot of people wearing these WWF climate change shirts that had a polar bear (symbol of Berlin) and had a slogan about climate change with a big "Yes you can" directed at Obama and the US.
BTW, you weren't really allowed to bring any posters or such, but there was no checking on the boulevard.
Ein Ami in Deutschland
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By Ami_in_DEJuly 25, 2008 - 12:11pmYes you can
Here are the WWF press photos of the t-shirts:
link to press photos
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By Ami_in_DEJuly 25, 2008 - 12:22pmAmi_in_DE I would like to
Ami_in_DE
I would like to start out by thanking you for giving me a more personal insight on how the wonderful people of Deutschland may have viewed and felt about Obama’s speech. I agree that he could have given a much better speech for German people for the reasons you so eloquently lay out, however, in my opinion this was not a speech for the German people. I believe that his speech was mostly for the voters in the U.S. Not for the people who do not vote for President of the U.S. As a voter living in the U.S., I think his speech was very poignant and quite successful. I would have liked to hear a more specific, issues oriented speech myself, but, I have found it makes for a very dull speech.
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By woodnmetalJuly 25, 2008 - 12:34pmSenator Mary Landrieu for Vice President
A great VP pick for Obama would be Senator Mary Landrieu of Louisiana. I won't go into detail here about my reasons, for space considerations, but there is much to support Landrieu for VP. In short, she is ranked as one of the 10 most influential US Senators, she has lengthy senate experience, her star is rising fast in Louisiana and the south, she is an expert in new and emerging cyber threats, she grew up as a military brat and has a strong record of support for the military, she is an excellent debater, and she helps with three demographics where Barack needs help: Women; Catholics; the South.
Although not as well known as many of the well-touted possibilities, she is possibly the best possibility, and should be given strong consideration.
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By bfurinoJuly 26, 2008 - 3:59amPerhaps later
We can only hope that he comes back and gives that speech. I see a lot of good will toward the US in the grown Germans, although tried by GWB. In the Germans just coming of age, they know no other America other than GWB's America, and it is not a pretty picture of the regard in which they hold the US.The risk is losing the good will of half a generation if they are not won soon. What would you think if all you knew of America was GWB's America - pre-emptive war, torture, domestic spying, corruption, anti-environment, cockiness, conceit, ... ?
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By Ami_in_DEJuly 27, 2008 - 4:27am